1911 + 16" barrel + folding stock = .45acp Rifle

[hankdatank1362]

Does the long barrel negatively affect reliability? I'm thinking that the extra weight acting like a lever could screw with the short recoil system.

 

[KiltedClaymore]

i gotta say, the OP's pic made me laugh. good idea, could use refinement. because, no offence as this is just my oppinion, it looks kinda silly righ now.

 

[younganddumb]

I like the kimber one a lot better IMO

 

[Gunner4h1r3]

the 40 round drum is a POS (prior experience). Darned thing failed to feed every other round.

 

[kcshooter]

The stock appears to be set at a poor angle. After 10-12" of barrel, the 45acp begins to slow back down, becoming less effective. It also is not going to be able to reach out far enough accurately to have any use for a scope, especially after the long barrel drops it's speed.

(Plus it's ugly)

 

[H088]

Is there any purpose or advantage to this over a "normal" rifle? Or is it for the cool factor?

 

[HB]

Me Finks it's pretty cool, but I don't think I'd buy one. It's greatest advantage (disadvantage?) is that it probably weighs about 3 pounds! I would want a solid stock tho

HB

 

[waverace]

Hmm not sure what to think would be interested to find out more about the contender situation though bought mine used with rifle and pistol barrels , obviously if i fit the butt stock on the pistol barrel i have an sbr , am i ok as long as i have both barrels and only put it together as one or the other ? how about a pistol with a 23" barrel ?
without wishing to incriminate myself here , i have shot my 14" 7-30 waters as a rifle , super accurate ! oops just did
you didnt see me you cant prove it i was never there

 

[RaspberrySurprise]

It's a good thing John Moses Browning is dead, or he'd likely be beating you to death right now for what you've done to one of his pistols.

But as long as it makes you happy and won't get you tossed in the jug for ten years have at it, you never know what great thing you might invent when your tinkering.

 

[CajunBass]

Man. You wanna talk about an answer just begging for a question.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

ATF has a FAQ on their website with common questions like this, and a Curio and Relic list. Even tho the FAQ said my original Mauser Broomhandle would be legal with a reproduction shoulder stock (dup of orginal) I got a letter from ATF FTB JIC.

 

[nalioth]

how about a pistol with a 23" barrel ?

There is no legal limit on how long a pistol barrel can be.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

OK, I got a letter from ATF FTB matching the ATF posting at the ATF website FAQ:

(Paraphrasing) An original Mauser Broomhandle is a curio and relic, and may be owned legally as a pistol with an original shoulder stock or an accurate replica of an original shoulder stock.

A new broomhandle pistol build on a new frame from an original parts set is a new pistol, not a curio or relic, and must follow all NFA rules: an original shoulderstock or repro would constitute a short barrel rifle SBR and require federal registration.

And if I read the regs correctly, an original Mauser Broomhandle pistol with a new shoulder stock that is not an accurate replica of an original would constitute a SBR under NFA.

 

[Red Tornado]

I guess it would steady the pistol, but without a cheek weld, can you aim it accurately? Without the increased steadiness of a cheek weld, is it 'really' a viable carbine? I'd love to try one myself, but I'll trust your assessment.
Thanks,
RT

 

[Blacksmoke]

Why would someone take a perfectly good Model 1911 and do that to it?
IF you want a .45 ACP carbine buy a Thompson Model 1927 A1 made by Kahr or the former real Auto Ordinance Company.

 

[Deer Hunter]

'Cause they can, Blacksmoke.

I've seen these kits in Sportsman's Guide magazines. Looked pretty interesting.

 

[DrDremel]

Actually, JMB had a folding stock on the pistol that became the HiPower. Until the NFA law was created, shoulder stocks on pistols wer much more common. What killed the idea was a $200 tax on a $50 or less gun. I have a 1911a1 that is NFA registered as a short barreled rifle. With the pistol barrel and a folding stock, it will make a nice compact carbine. If you have ever fired a Luger or Broomhandle Mauser with a stock at distances of over 100 yards, you will find that they are quite useful. I have made hits on a milk jug at 200 yards with one.

I'm still looking for a stock for my 1911.