haiauphixu
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This is one of my favorite.
1911 in 9mm
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This is one of my favorite.
Sounds like you have a Rock Island, not a Rock River. Completely different companies.
bannockburn
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Bartojc
Have never had a problem with either the recoil spring or the magazine springs in my .38 Super/9mm. convertibles. I use mainly Colt magazines for both. I like the Colts because they have a spacer in the back of the magazine that makes up the difference with the shorter case. The 9mm. barrel assembly is a complete unit; just drop it in and you're ready to go. I use the factory recoil spring for the .38 Super and it works just fine with any of the 9mm. loads I use.
Have never had a problem with either the recoil spring or the magazine springs in my .38 Super/9mm. convertibles. I use mainly Colt magazines for both. I like the Colts because they have a spacer in the back of the magazine that makes up the difference with the shorter case. The 9mm. barrel assembly is a complete unit; just drop it in and you're ready to go. I use the factory recoil spring for the .38 Super and it works just fine with any of the 9mm. loads I use.
My wife got a Ruger CMD lightweight 9mm.
The recoil spring was too light, casing sluggish slide return and the plunger tube spring weak allowing too easy disengagement of thumb safety.
I easily corrected both of those issues with stronger springs.
Pistol shoots great, my wife shot HST 147 +P and 124 Golden Saber +P and said "maybe next time we can shoot some hot ammo".
Ruger has a ramped barrel and came with magazines that work, pistol now has about 200 rounds (about 1/2 that HP) no feeding problems.
IMO its worth considering, about $750
The recoil spring was too light, casing sluggish slide return and the plunger tube spring weak allowing too easy disengagement of thumb safety.
I easily corrected both of those issues with stronger springs.
Pistol shoots great, my wife shot HST 147 +P and 124 Golden Saber +P and said "maybe next time we can shoot some hot ammo".
Ruger has a ramped barrel and came with magazines that work, pistol now has about 200 rounds (about 1/2 that HP) no feeding problems.
IMO its worth considering, about $750
oldrevolverguy
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You are correct.
haiauphixu
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it is RIA but it's mine
mljdeckard
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I am carrying a full-size, double stack 9mm 1911 from RIA. For what it cost me, and considering it will also run .22 TCM, it was a great bargain.
Bottom Gun
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I've had nothing but good luck with Kimber 1911's in both .45 and 9MM. Both of my 9MM Kimbers, full size and pro, are excellent shooters.
Been reading a lot online, and in some 1911 forums. I am probably reading too much
I see Kimber recommends recoil spring changes every 800 rounds on the Pro-Carry II ? Is this normal for all 4" 1911s ? Do people really do that ? I understand they are cheap, but that seems excessive. It caught me off guard.
I also see lots of good stuff about the Ruger. Typical Ruger, good firearm for the money, not as pretty as some of the others. Good value, and really no one has much bad to say about it which surprised me sine they are relatively new to the 1911 market. I'm attracted to this because of my experience with Ruger. If I could find one it may be worth considering. MSRP is not much different that the Pro-Carry II, and I'd guess the Kimber gets the edge as far as quality and better shooting ?
I know street prices vary.
-Jeff
I see Kimber recommends recoil spring changes every 800 rounds on the Pro-Carry II ? Is this normal for all 4" 1911s ? Do people really do that ? I understand they are cheap, but that seems excessive. It caught me off guard.
I also see lots of good stuff about the Ruger. Typical Ruger, good firearm for the money, not as pretty as some of the others. Good value, and really no one has much bad to say about it which surprised me sine they are relatively new to the 1911 market. I'm attracted to this because of my experience with Ruger. If I could find one it may be worth considering. MSRP is not much different that the Pro-Carry II, and I'd guess the Kimber gets the edge as far as quality and better shooting ?
I know street prices vary.
-Jeff
highlander 5
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I have the Ruger lightweight good overall carry gun but the recoil spring is very light. I read the various 1911 forums correctly the spring is 10 lbs,when I bought the pistol I was thinking gee this slide is easy to rack now I know why.
Bottom Gun
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I have shot thousands of rounds through my pro series Kimbers and have not changed any recoil springs in 20 yr. I’m sure that’s not what Kimber recommends but mine have been 100% reliable.
That's what I wanted to hear
On my other non-1911 9mm I have run 1000's of rounds as well and never changed a spring. I understand these are recommendations. I understand what I may see as they fatigue, but I have never had any issues. Maybe its because I never looked for it, but I did see it in writing on the Kimber site.-Jeff
As a follow up yesterday I ordered a Springfield Range Officer Elite Champion. I tried to talk myself into the Ruger but for about $125 more I felt the Springfield was worth it. The LGS should have it in a couple days.
Time will tell if I made the right choice. After all this research I do see a Dan Wesson in my future , just not this time.
Jeff
Time will tell if I made the right choice. After all this research I do see a Dan Wesson in my future , just not this time.
Jeff
Alte Schule
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3" 1911 Springfield EMP in 9mm
Dudedog
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Please let us know how you like it.
Will do. I'll probably do a separate thread on it. Hopefully will have it in a few days.
Please let us know how you like it.
Jeff
Tcruse
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Dan Wesson Pointman 9mm. I felt like I had lost my mind when I looked at the price, however, after the first range trip, it is worth every penny.
The Pointman is a nice looking 1911 and Dan Wesson has a great rep.
I had one in my hands and talked myself off the ledge so to speak. Maybe next time...
Jeff
Panzerschwein
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^^^^^^^^^^ this
The Browning Hi-Power was and forever will be the greatest 9mm fightsman's pistol in history, even though it has been discontinued due to lack of sales and largely forgotten by most modern military and police forces around the world in favor of other options... they're wrong, the multiple pretty pictures of the collector's grade Hi-Powers posted on this forum prove it.
The Browning Hi-Power was and forever will be the greatest 9mm fightsman's pistol in history, even though it has been discontinued due to lack of sales and largely forgotten by most modern military and police forces around the world in favor of other options... they're wrong, the multiple pretty pictures of the collector's grade Hi-Powers posted on this forum prove it.
Ranald
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At the risk of closing the barn door after the horses got loose, my personal experience would be get a Hi Power.. designed directly for the 9mm, as the 1911 was designed for the .45 auto... Ive used and carried multiple versions of both going back to the days before 9mm was cool and every mother's son made a DA 9mm... I found the 9mmP vastly under-powered for the bulk and capacity of the 1911... The BHP is a flat and easily carried pistol and 13 round mags are nice too.. Course today many guys prefer the Glocks for one reason or another and personally my own choice in .45 auto these last few years has been a Glock 21.. It's just me, but I got rid of my 9mm Combat Commander after realising it was over-sized and under-capacity compared to the BHP.
Anyway, the "die is cast" so enjoy and shoot the <> out of your new 1911! One of the joys (still) about shooting sports in this great country is all the options and sub-options available to gun-owners in the enjoyment of our sport...
Anyway, the "die is cast" so enjoy and shoot the <
> out of your new 1911! One of the joys (still) about shooting sports in this great country is all the options and sub-options available to gun-owners in the enjoyment of our sport...At the risk of closing the barn door after the horses got loose, my personal experience would be get a Hi Power.. designed directly for the 9mm, as the 1911 was designed for the .45 auto... Ive used and carried multiple versions of both going back to the days before 9mm was cool and every mother's son made a DA 9mm... I found the 9mmP vastly under-powered for the bulk and capacity of the 1911... The BHP is a flat and easily carried pistol and 13 round mags are nice too.. Course today many guys prefer the Glocks for one reason or another and personally my own choice in .45 auto these last few years has been a Glock 21.. It's just me, but I got rid of my 9mm Combat Commander after realising it was over-sized and under-capacity compared to the BHP.
Anyway, the "die is cast" so enjoy and shoot the <
Yes, and I briefly looked for a Hi-Power. I have other carry weapons, so the need was loosly defined and is more of a want to have. I want something to shoot at the range to split duty with my other 9mm pistols. That was the one requirement. Secondly I would like to be able to carry it if I wanted to which is how I decided on lightweight commander. I know there are 3" and compact models, but with range duty as a first requirement I did not want something that short.
Yes, agree in this great country I can still enjoy my hobby and have more than one. So if the desire hits me and I have the finances I can get something else if I want to
-Jeff
I'd say you made the right choice. I do like the Ruger CMD 9mm, but the Elite just feels better made for not much more money.
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