So I just bought this brand new SA Loaded in 45 ACP and I'm having some jamming problems. It fails to feed (round doesnt fully leave the magazine and hangs up the slide) about once every ten rounds, sometimes more frequently. All ammo is PCM 230gr FMJ, about 300 rounds so far, no change. Weapon has been cleaned and lubed as per the manual (military CLP used) and no change. Three different magazines have been used with the same results (two of the magazines work well but they ALWAYS jam on the 7th round, if you only load 6 it shoots them just the same, 1 jam in 10 or so). I thought it was just because the gun is new, but it doesnt seem to be going away. What do you think?
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Call Springfield tomorrow, tell them what's happening and that you bought the gun for carry/self defense and need it fixed. Also, tell them you want it checked thoroughly - function, trigger, accuracy, etc - and range tested so that you won't have any future issues, make sure you include a letter in the box repeating everything you tell them. They'll email you a return label to send it back via FedEx, and when it's done they'll return it directly to you the same way.
Last spring I had some issues with a new Loaded I bought for duty carry, it had some bad slide/frame fit issues and I sent it back to them before I ever fired a shot and asked the same things I've suggested to you. In addition to fixing the primary issue they gutted the gun, replaced everything with TRP parts, hand fitted everything and tuned the action. The gun I got back is incredible, a far better than what I sent them, all done under warranty. It feeds everything, is ridiculously accurate, and has an incredible trigger. Springfield's customer service is second to none, they'll make it right for you.
Last spring I had some issues with a new Loaded I bought for duty carry, it had some bad slide/frame fit issues and I sent it back to them before I ever fired a shot and asked the same things I've suggested to you. In addition to fixing the primary issue they gutted the gun, replaced everything with TRP parts, hand fitted everything and tuned the action. The gun I got back is incredible, a far better than what I sent them, all done under warranty. It feeds everything, is ridiculously accurate, and has an incredible trigger. Springfield's customer service is second to none, they'll make it right for you.
Kingofthehill
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Sounds like a magazine issue IMO.
Do yourself a favor, go buy a Wilson 47 magazine and try that. If that doesn't work, then contact Springfield.
If you can't find one or get one, let me know and i'll hook ya up. Wilson 47's have some sort of voo doo magic in them and have solved SO MANY 1911 issues its unbelievable really.
JOe
Do yourself a favor, go buy a Wilson 47 magazine and try that. If that doesn't work, then contact Springfield.
If you can't find one or get one, let me know and i'll hook ya up. Wilson 47's have some sort of voo doo magic in them and have solved SO MANY 1911 issues its unbelievable really.
JOe
jr_roosa
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Springfield magazines are really unimpressive. Mine are a little better now that they are more worn in, but now the springs are so weak the 2nd to last round double feeds.
Colt (factory, not GI) mags feed a lot better, but the springs wore out within a few months. Colt GI mags feed ball all day but barf on wadcutters and hollowpoints.
I would find some friends with different mags and find a style that works. Also a free trip to Springfield is hard to turn down since they will fluff and buff it on top of fixing your problem.
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Colt (factory, not GI) mags feed a lot better, but the springs wore out within a few months. Colt GI mags feed ball all day but barf on wadcutters and hollowpoints.
I would find some friends with different mags and find a style that works. Also a free trip to Springfield is hard to turn down since they will fluff and buff it on top of fixing your problem.
-J.
rellascout
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I would borrow some Wilsons & or Chip McCormick Power Mags. If it still hiccups contact SA and send the gun back in.
Also have other people shot the gun with the same results? If other people are experiencing the same failure then you can eliminate shooter error.
Also have other people shot the gun with the same results? If other people are experiencing the same failure then you can eliminate shooter error.
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If it's happening with 3 mags, I think you can rule out problems with them. It certainly shouldn't be blamed on FMJ ammo since it is the best feeder there is. I also doubt if it's the shooter based on how my Loaded functions. I can hold it with two fingers and it will feed...........I think the gun needs a trip back to Springfield.
As far as Springfield mags go, I've got 8. They work just fine.
As far as Springfield mags go, I've got 8. They work just fine.
majortoo
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For magazines, I like Tripp and Wilson; both have served me well, with zero malfunctions. Tripp gets a slight edge in my rating scale, due to better fit and finish.
Nice to hear about SA customer service. Lots of other US companies should take notice. Earlier in my career, I did a lot of work on quality control issues. Eighty per cent of your customers never complain; they just never come back.
Nice to hear about SA customer service. Lots of other US companies should take notice. Earlier in my career, I did a lot of work on quality control issues. Eighty per cent of your customers never complain; they just never come back.
velocette
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+10 for Tripp magazines AND their upgrade parts for "lesser" magazines.
Roger
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Could be the extractor tension too. Take off the slide and slide a case (or round) up under the extractor. If the extractor has too much tension, it won't be easy to slip the case under it. If this is the case, it's possible that the magazine spring can overcome the extractor tension when the magazine has more rounds in it, but as you reduce the number of rounds, the force pushing up isn't enough to get the case all the way under the extractor. It's worth checking since it'll only take a couple of minutes. There's lots of information out there on how to correctly tension an extractor. I have two Ed Brown extractors for my Kimber that I tensioned correctly following Hilton Yam's directions. They both work perfectly and I keep one as a spare. Scroll down to the "extractor" section.
http://www.10-8consulting.com/article_page.php?articleID=13
http://www.10-8consulting.com/article_page.php?articleID=13
makarovnik
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I have had problems with the internal slide lock that is activated by the last round hold open on the magazine.
Z-Michigan
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Send it back to Springfield - it will be 100% free for you as the first owner, and it should be completely fixed.
It might be possible for you to diagnose it yourself, but why bother on a brand new 1911 with such a good warranty?
As for magazines, my lesser Springfield 1911's (GI and mil-spec) have been 100.000% reliable with a variety of magazines including their OEM, mil surplus, Metalform, Wilson, Mec-Gar, and Chip McCormick. The mil spec has even fed hollowpoints reliably (I haven't tried JHP in the GI). I literally cannot remember a single jam or misfeed with either gun, ever, and I bought both new. So I would absolutely expect your loaded to be reliable with any quality mag.
It might be possible for you to diagnose it yourself, but why bother on a brand new 1911 with such a good warranty?
As for magazines, my lesser Springfield 1911's (GI and mil-spec) have been 100.000% reliable with a variety of magazines including their OEM, mil surplus, Metalform, Wilson, Mec-Gar, and Chip McCormick. The mil spec has even fed hollowpoints reliably (I haven't tried JHP in the GI). I literally cannot remember a single jam or misfeed with either gun, ever, and I bought both new. So I would absolutely expect your loaded to be reliable with any quality mag.
Sniper X
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Are all three of the mags SA issues mags or something other than Wilson or Chip Mc Cormick? I have had problems with colt and sa mags and never even use them anymore except for range use.
Zerodefect
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PMC ammo? Try Federal 230gn FMJ. Walmart usually has it.
Try some Tripp magazines. I use a 7rd welded baseplate in my 1911, and 10 round for reloads.
Use better lube than CLP. Try FP-10, Mobile1, or ATF/STP/Grease.
Can you just tap the slide into battery? Is the round ahead of the slide? Or did the slide go over the top of the round?
Try some Tripp magazines. I use a 7rd welded baseplate in my 1911, and 10 round for reloads.
Use better lube than CLP. Try FP-10, Mobile1, or ATF/STP/Grease.
Can you just tap the slide into battery? Is the round ahead of the slide? Or did the slide go over the top of the round?
Sometimes I can just nudge the slide with my palm and it will go into battery, other times the round is jammed right above the magazine with the top of the rim holding up the slide. When it gets jammed up like that, operating the slide by hand causes a double feed.
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