ulflyer
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Speaking of early 1911's, just read in the Blue Press that USFA is making a 1910 colt replica. No details on when, or how much.
1918 Colt USGI Range Report
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1911Tuner
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ANother Number for Fuff
Aight! Finally got over to the vault and dug that pistol outta the mothballs.
It screamed when I brought it out into the light. It's been a while...
Colt...All ordnance and proof marks are correct or original. Serial number:
22864XX The gun shows holster wear...finish is about 85% intact, and appears to be unrefinished. The numbers are within 500 of the one my father
managed to get home after his expense-paid vacation in the Ardennes...
What say you, Sir Fuff?
Aight! Finally got over to the vault and dug that pistol outta the mothballs.
It screamed when I brought it out into the light. It's been a while...
Colt...All ordnance and proof marks are correct or original. Serial number:
22864XX The gun shows holster wear...finish is about 85% intact, and appears to be unrefinished. The numbers are within 500 of the one my father
managed to get home after his expense-paid vacation in the Ardennes...
What say you, Sir Fuff?
>> What say you, Sir Fuff? <<
Gee, you are being so good to me...
Number 2,286,4xx was shipped on May 29, 1945 as part of a 1,463 gun shippment serial numbered between 2,286,000 to 2,300,000.
They went to: Transportation Officer, Springfield Armory. Most likely it was on its way to Europe within a week thereafter.
Gee, you are being so good to me...
Number 2,286,4xx was shipped on May 29, 1945 as part of a 1,463 gun shippment serial numbered between 2,286,000 to 2,300,000.
They went to: Transportation Officer, Springfield Armory. Most likely it was on its way to Europe within a week thereafter.
1911Tuner
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Whoa Hoss!
Hold the phone! I grabbed the wrong Colt! I ran in while I was runnin' around
like a drunken rooster, and THOUGHT I had the right side of the safe. I've gotta go back over there tomorrow. I'll dig up the other one and report back. I guess I put it closer to the bottom of the pile.
I need to sit down and take an inventory soon...
Hold the phone! I grabbed the wrong Colt! I ran in while I was runnin' around
like a drunken rooster, and THOUGHT I had the right side of the safe. I've gotta go back over there tomorrow. I'll dig up the other one and report back. I guess I put it closer to the bottom of the pile.
I need to sit down and take an inventory soon...
1911Tuner
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Mine!
Sorry Fuff...Didn't mean ta have ya worryin' over a GI Colt not bein' in your armory. I...I promise that I'll try not to mention any more after I go check that last serial number. I won't tell ya about the...WHOOPS! Nevermiiiiind...
I need ta get rid of some of these Colts and try to pick up a couple more Ithacas...Another Union Switch would be good too....
Sorry Fuff...Didn't mean ta have ya worryin' over a GI Colt not bein' in your armory. I...I promise that I'll try not to mention any more after I go check that last serial number. I won't tell ya about the...WHOOPS! Nevermiiiiind...
I need ta get rid of some of these Colts and try to pick up a couple more Ithacas...Another Union Switch would be good too....
>> I need ta get rid of some of these Colts ... <<
Ya' do .... ???
I bet there are a whole lot of folks in this forum (including me) who will be glad to help. All of those heavy guns in the safe might give you back strain ...
Ya' do .... ???
I bet there are a whole lot of folks in this forum (including me) who will be glad to help. All of those heavy guns in the safe might give you back strain ...
1911Tuner
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Colts
Fuff...I don't know how ta break this to ya...but I've got a near-pristine
'17 Commercial model in the crosshairs...or is it a GI? Can't remember to save my aged backside...No matter. It's supposed to be arrivin' here for the negotiations next week.
You need ta relocate to a more easterly locale...Seems like a lotta old Colts are turnin' up...and Rands and Ithacas and....
Not many Kimbers though...Odd.
Fuff...I don't know how ta break this to ya...but I've got a near-pristine
'17 Commercial model in the crosshairs...or is it a GI? Can't remember to save my aged backside...No matter. It's supposed to be arrivin' here for the negotiations next week.
You need ta relocate to a more easterly locale...Seems like a lotta old Colts are turnin' up...and Rands and Ithacas and....
Not many Kimbers though...Odd.
Tuner, I have an early 1911, serial number 10,2XX shipped to Augusta Arsenal November 1, 1912. It is a shooter, having an old refinish and the barrel and some minor parts replaced--but lots of nostalgia. Picked it up years ago just because it had so much character. Shot it now and then with RNL hardball equivalent loads.
Some time back I picked up a Glock 17 to wring it out and find out for once and for all if I was missing something by not owning one. Tried and tried to get used to the "green twig" trigger and never could get the $%#@ thing to put shots where I called them.
Broke out the old 1911 in frustration one day and even with the old invisible knife-edge front sight, round notch rear sight, 9 pound pull--and hold-off--I shot it better than the Tupperware. Not bad for 93 years old.
The Glock is long gone. The 1911 is, of course, a keeper.
Some time back I picked up a Glock 17 to wring it out and find out for once and for all if I was missing something by not owning one. Tried and tried to get used to the "green twig" trigger and never could get the $%#@ thing to put shots where I called them.
Broke out the old 1911 in frustration one day and even with the old invisible knife-edge front sight, round notch rear sight, 9 pound pull--and hold-off--I shot it better than the Tupperware. Not bad for 93 years old.
The Glock is long gone. The 1911 is, of course, a keeper.
Tuner:
Back around the time that Colt’s new .45 automatic hit the commercial market our neighbor to the south was in the middle of a revolution. This made for a somewhat unsettled situation along the border that got even more agitated what with labor troubles in the mines and certain Germans working undercover to disrupt copper production that was needed to manufacture shells and cartridges.
As a consequence Colt started shipping 1911’s down to El Paso and points west into New Mexico and Arizona in boxcar loads. Have any idea how many .45’s can be fitted into a boxcar??? Good! Now ya’ got the picture.
Now I have good news and bad. As a consequence this part of the world is, or was, flooded with .45 pistols, some of which remain in pristine condition. Many of them are still in the families of the original owners. The bad news is that they’ll sometimes let you look if they get to like you, or would like to tap into your brain, but if you make any move to try and buy it they will have your head on a platter.
I have tried using all of the guile and sneaky tricks I’m famous for, but ya’ know, so far it hasn’t worked. Them ol’ ranchers are a lot smarter then they look, and good shot too …
:banghead:
Back around the time that Colt’s new .45 automatic hit the commercial market our neighbor to the south was in the middle of a revolution. This made for a somewhat unsettled situation along the border that got even more agitated what with labor troubles in the mines and certain Germans working undercover to disrupt copper production that was needed to manufacture shells and cartridges.
As a consequence Colt started shipping 1911’s down to El Paso and points west into New Mexico and Arizona in boxcar loads. Have any idea how many .45’s can be fitted into a boxcar??? Good! Now ya’ got the picture.
Now I have good news and bad. As a consequence this part of the world is, or was, flooded with .45 pistols, some of which remain in pristine condition. Many of them are still in the families of the original owners. The bad news is that they’ll sometimes let you look if they get to like you, or would like to tap into your brain, but if you make any move to try and buy it they will have your head on a platter.
I have tried using all of the guile and sneaky tricks I’m famous for, but ya’ know, so far it hasn’t worked. Them ol’ ranchers are a lot smarter then they look, and good shot too …
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The Numbers
Okay...Got it this time. The numbers are:
8541XX and 8544XX Both Colts...
Okay...Got it this time. The numbers are:
8541XX and 8544XX Both Colts...
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Tuner, Old Fuff
I just got your messages sent by Carrier Pigeon, oh btw sorry about the Pigeon, 1 1/4 oz of # 7 1/2 shot is called "Pigeon Load" for a reason ...
I have been checking my mailbox, still NO Reprobate Cert. NO brown trucks have pulled up out front , nor any calls from FFL buddy, either.
What am I going do with you two?
Well at least folks are getting a great history lesson about a proven Combat Weapon, I am grateful for that.
Now all you young whippersnappers, dig around in the attics of relatives and get them old Colts out and ready to ship out...don't use a Carrier Pigeon for my delivery- Pony Express [ get it] is fine.
I just got your messages sent by Carrier Pigeon, oh btw sorry about the Pigeon, 1 1/4 oz of # 7 1/2 shot is called "Pigeon Load" for a reason ...
I have been checking my mailbox, still NO Reprobate Cert. NO brown trucks have pulled up out front , nor any calls from FFL buddy, either.
What am I going do with you two?
Well at least folks are getting a great history lesson about a proven Combat Weapon, I am grateful for that.
Now all you young whippersnappers, dig around in the attics of relatives and get them old Colts out and ready to ship out...don't use a Carrier Pigeon for my delivery- Pony Express [ get it] is fine.
1911Tuner
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Colts
sm...I got Colts. What I need is more Rands and Ithacas...Word!
sm...I got Colts. What I need is more Rands and Ithacas...Word!
ulflyer
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Well then Tuner, I won't tell you bout the old Colt bring back from the Pacific by an old Marine who was telling me all about it at Hickory yesterday. Said he'd been offered $3500 cause he can document it, etc. Didn't have it at the show but gave me his phone and wanted me to come look at it. I don't doubt he brought it back, but based on his story of hiding it during shake downs I doubt he can really prove it. Still, I'm gonna go see it next week.
IF, big IF, it can be proved and is in nice condition...what kind of money are we talking about its being worth?
If it can't, then we're probably in the $1500-2000 range?
I'm just asing for guesstimates as I know there are many variables.
IF, big IF, it can be proved and is in nice condition...what kind of money are we talking about its being worth?
If it can't, then we're probably in the $1500-2000 range?
I'm just asing for guesstimates as I know there are many variables.
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Hush your mouth.
Your weren't supposed to mention them other "names" - bad enough folks looking for the original dancing pony.
I did mention didn't I that as a wee brat I shot a Gov't Model made by folks known for sewing machines...
Folks he was "just kidding" , Rand made cash registers, Ithaca only made shotguns. < crossed fingers behind back>
[bolt of lightning strikes]
Your weren't supposed to mention them other "names" - bad enough folks looking for the original dancing pony.
I did mention didn't I that as a wee brat I shot a Gov't Model made by folks known for sewing machines...
Folks he was "just kidding" , Rand made cash registers, Ithaca only made shotguns. < crossed fingers behind back>
[bolt of lightning strikes]
1911Tuner
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PTO Bring Back
Well...I kinda doubt if he can document more than the fact that it did go to the Pacific Theater...but even if he can, I don't think it would be worth
3500 bucks, even if it's dead pristine and original. 1500-2,000...Well, maybe.
It would have to be a pretty nice specimen...and if it was in the island actions, it ain't real likely. Things had a way of rustin' in that environment.
At the very least, the finish would likely be history.
sm...I'll swap a decent Colt and a semi-rough Ithaca for a US&S.
Well...I kinda doubt if he can document more than the fact that it did go to the Pacific Theater...but even if he can, I don't think it would be worth
3500 bucks, even if it's dead pristine and original. 1500-2,000...Well, maybe.
It would have to be a pretty nice specimen...and if it was in the island actions, it ain't real likely. Things had a way of rustin' in that environment.
At the very least, the finish would likely be history.
sm...I'll swap a decent Colt and a semi-rough Ithaca for a US&S.
Tuner:
Pinning down the exact date those two 854,xxx 1911-A1 pistols were shipped will require a factory letter for each one.
Why? Because at the time Colt was making frequent shipments and not keeping the serial numbers in consecutive order. The war was on, and not going particularly well for us, so whatever was ready to go … went. Anyway, these are the possible shipping dates:
Nov. 23, 1942 2,000 guns between (841,000 to 856,000)
Nov. 25, 1942 1,200 guns between (843,000 to 861,000)
Nov. 30, 1942 2,600 guns between (845,000 to 862,000)
Dec. 4, 1942 1,800 guns between (847,000 to 863,000)
Dec. 10, 1942 2,100 guns between (849,000 to 865,000)
Dec. 16, 1942 1,900 guns between (850,000 to 867,000)
Dec. 18, 1942 1,800 guns between (852,000 to 867,000)
Dec. 23, 1942 1,200 guns between (854,000 to 869,000)
That’s 14,600 pistols in about four weeks !!!
Edited to add: All shipments went to Springfield Armory.
Pinning down the exact date those two 854,xxx 1911-A1 pistols were shipped will require a factory letter for each one.
Why? Because at the time Colt was making frequent shipments and not keeping the serial numbers in consecutive order. The war was on, and not going particularly well for us, so whatever was ready to go … went. Anyway, these are the possible shipping dates:
Nov. 23, 1942 2,000 guns between (841,000 to 856,000)
Nov. 25, 1942 1,200 guns between (843,000 to 861,000)
Nov. 30, 1942 2,600 guns between (845,000 to 862,000)
Dec. 4, 1942 1,800 guns between (847,000 to 863,000)
Dec. 10, 1942 2,100 guns between (849,000 to 865,000)
Dec. 16, 1942 1,900 guns between (850,000 to 867,000)
Dec. 18, 1942 1,800 guns between (852,000 to 867,000)
Dec. 23, 1942 1,200 guns between (854,000 to 869,000)
That’s 14,600 pistols in about four weeks !!!
Edited to add: All shipments went to Springfield Armory.
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