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1926 ShtLE III Lee Enfield?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by squarepants33889, Nov 25, 2012.

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  1. squarepants33889

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    I just bought a 1269 Lee Enfield ShtLE III.
    After arranging a meeting over a forum, I purchased this beautiful rifle for $120.00. The price seems a pittance for a gun this nice looking.
    I guess, for now, I can only hope it shoots the venerable .303 British fmj's half as well as it looks!

    http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w489/squarepants33889/photo3.jpg

    One question I have for all you guys is this. What exactly is the "Sht"? I can find tons on the "SMLE" but not this exact variant.

    I have faith that someone on this forum can point me in the right direction.
     
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    IIRC its short lee enfied vs short magazine lee enfield....
     
  4. DougW

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    Sht is "short", as in short rifle. LE is Lee-Enfield, which designates the Lee loading system and being an Enfield design.

    Now, someone like madcratebuilder, please correct my statements, as I am on the road and have none of my reference material with me.

    Pretty rifle though. How is the scope rail mounted? With the front sight intact, it might be a good candidate for restoration, or just shoot that sweetheart and fun with it!
     
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    Hi Doug:)

    I'm not up with the No1's, brain is cluttered with No4's. I did find this info.

     
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    SMLE (short magazine lee enfield as noted above) as opposed to the earlier MLE (magazine lee enfield) w/ long barrel or the LE Carbine w/ short barrel.

    Nice find for a good price. Where be the magazine? Modified to an Internal box or detachable removed for photo? Cannot quite tell from the photo.
     
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    SMLE, is an acronym for;

    S- Short Rifle
    M- Magazine Fed
    L- Lee
    E- Enfield

    Or "Smelly" as the Australians called em...........
     
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    Thanks guys. Like madcratebuilder, I have lots of #4's and only 3 ShtLe MkIII or #1mkIII's, so I appreciate the help. I have always found the British Enfield rifles totally amazing in design and variations. Love 'em all, even the bubba'ed ones.
     
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    I knew I could count on you guys!
    The magazine is a flush fitting 5 rounder. It's in place in the picture. It's funny you mentioned it, because I haven't seen any other photos like it.
    I took the rifle out to a nearby gravel pit and was bustin clays at about 70 yards. I couldn't believe how well it shot.
    The scope is mounted on a picatinny bridge. It's a cheap anodized aluminum bridge with matching rings. I really don't care for it myself. If the rifle proves itself at the range, I might explore other options.
    Btw. Thx for the link. It has a to of useful info. My makers cartouche nearly exactly matches the RSAF 1924 mark.
    You have been a ton of help, so let me try to stump you again. How do I determine the makers location? I believe that I've narrowed it down to Lsa, BSA, or ? "Essex" is stamped on the barrel.
     
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    Cartouche
     

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    Here's another thing. What is the "hinge"? Just forward of the magazine well?
     

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    Lets see a photo of the under side, I have never seen a No1 with a flush mag.........The only 5rd. mag. for a No1 I ever seen looked like this.
    Only ever seen 5rd internal on the P13 & the 1917...........
     
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    Here's the underside and mag 303tom
     

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    And the bottom
     

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    FWIW, the magazine doesn't look like it was cut down or anything.
    I took it out to the range today. The fourth round doesnt feed that well. And the scope leaves much to be desired compared to the others in my stable. I had a really tough time focusing both the reticle and the target at the same time, but it did a just fine at 100 yards. The surprise of the day was a three inch, 5 shot group at 200 yards with 180 gr Federals.
     
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    Here's the 100 yard targets
     

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    The hinge thingie is where a short piece of chain was attached to the original magazine, so you could not take the mag out & lose it. All the loading was done via stripper clips.............
     
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    Aaaahh! Thank you again, sir. Your assistance has been invaluable. In the course of my research, I have learned more about the Lee Enfield than I thought was possible. One thing that surprises me the most, is how little I still actually know. There are a veritable ton of different configurations. And the wartime practices only complicate an already confusing situation.
    After a few nights of reading page after page of internet info about this rifle, it made it even sweeter yesterday when I went out and got to actually shoot it.
    There is something about an old wood stock and blued steel that just feels right. I can't wait till next deer hunting season. I think this fellow might get a new scope and see the field one more time.
    Or maybe I will practice up with the iron sights and take it out the way James Paris Lee intended!
     
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    I thought the little ring thingy was to tie off the canvas action cover they issued early in the war. Hmmmmm........
     
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    Yes that too................
     
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    here is a picture of an original Enfield magazine.........
     
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    303tom, I have never seen one of those with the link on the mag body.
     
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