1980 870 express...

Status
Not open for further replies.

area51

Member
Joined
Jan 25, 2012
Messages
240
Are the 80's 870 express models better quality that the ones made today? Any Difference between the 870P / Wingmaster and the 870 express from that time frame?

My dad was telling me the steel used back in 30s through 80s was of a better quality than todays junk.
 
The quality in 1980 might have been, or very likely was better.

But no way was the "steel used in the 30's better then todays junk".
Steel used in firearms today is a good as man can affordably make it.

Anyway, they didn't make 870's in the 30's.

rc
 
The older Express guns don't have the magazine tube dimples that can cause problems adding a magazine extension. Most of the older ones have machined parts as opposed to the MIM parts that some people fear so much in newer Express guns.

Basically the older Express guns are Wingmasters with a rougher blued finish and birch furniture instead of walnut (though my oldest Express has plain grain matte finish walnut). I prefer older Express guns in good used condition, when located at good prices (around here, less than $200).

Today's steel ain't junk, BTW. Workmanship might have been better 'back when' because lots of stuff was hand finished and there was more skilled labor spent on mass produced stuff like firearms. Nowadays no one can afford to pay skilled labor to do that level of work, even if enough workers with enough skills could be found. The 870 is a design that lent itself to modern manufacturing methods, and it still does. QC might not be as good nowadays (1 out of 10,000 with problems from the factory, as opposed to 1 out of 50,000 in 'the old days'), but the 870 design is still a great one.
 
I have an 870 Wingmaster that was given to me in 1974, one of the best shotguns I've ever had! The one's made today can't hold a candle to this one, solid and shoots like a champ!
 
The Expresses didn't come out until 1987. The finish back then was a lot smoother than you see today, and there were no MIM parts, but it still wasn't quite a Wingmaster. I got an early one, and if you closed your eyes you couldn't tell it from a Wingmaster, the action was smoother than these days out of the box, but I usually go around with my eyes open, so I got rid of it and got another Wingmaster. I had a perfect for me Wingmaster back in 1974, but unfortunately I sold it in a blinding moment of stupidity. Took me six tries to get another one very, very close.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top