1st set of Lee dies

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Love Lee dies. Love Lee lockrings. You don't want your die to get out of adjustment, don't turn the die itself. Turn only the lock ring. I would buy Lee dies even if they were the same price as the rest. I love the seating depth adjustment on the Lees. You can adjust the depth with your fingers.
My .243 dies are RCBS because they were on sale. They now have Lee lock rings on them.
 
If you have a Forster Co-Ax press, it's not obvious but the Lee lockrings work just fine in it too.

I like other rings better than Lee's, but not *that* much better. I use both.

If you have a progressive press with multiple heads (or use Hornady or Lee quick-change bushings), check out the Dillon rings that are just a skinny jam nut.
 
So here's a dumb noob question.

With the Lee classic cast Breech Lock press, do the dies maintain proper spacing when readily removed and replaced during a loading session?

Or, is it best to get one of those adjustable dies (like Redding) for the bullet seat?
 
So here's a dumb noob question.

With the Lee classic cast Breech Lock press, do the dies maintain proper spacing when readily removed and replaced during a loading session?

Or, is it best to get one of those adjustable dies (like Redding) for the bullet seat?


? All dies are adjustable. Lee's will remain where set until the die body is moved in relation to the lock nut.
Some people seem to have a problem with that. I never have.
 
"Sorry, the Lee lock nut is just not a positive enough stop for me. An eighth of turn of the nut is almost 0.009" change in position of the die. "

No need to be sorry, I don't mind! :)

But, as mentioned several times above, if we hold the lock ring to install and remove the dies (as the instructions tell us to do) there's no reason for Lee's rings to ever move. And, if they do move, I don't find it very difficult nor time consuming to reset a die, not since I got over being a noob anyway! ???

I strongly dislike set screws in lock rings but I don't make an issue of them; I prefer any split rings but I can live with anything, I'm sure not going to buy extra cost rings - nor turn any on my lathe!
 
But, as mentioned several times above, if we hold the lock ring to install and remove the dies (as the instructions tell us to do) there's no reason for Lee's rings to ever move.

Removing the dies by turning the nut did not work in my experience, the dies still moved relative to the nut on occasions when installing and removing the dies. I will admit that I stopped buying Lee loading dies in the mid 90s so maybe Lee "fixed" them since then. I am not willing or interested to spend the money to find out.

I prefer split lock ring dies so I do not bother installing set screws in the Lee rings. Set screws are a reasonable alternative though.

So, if Lee lock rings float your boat, that is great. It is another Ford/Chevy debate that will never end.
 
I find it interesting that Lee makes a Breech Lock bushing with a spit lock ring built into it.
 
Removing the dies by turning the nut did not work in my experience, the dies still moved relative to the nut on occasions when installing and removing the dies. I will admit that I stopped buying Lee loading dies in the mid 90s so maybe Lee "fixed" them since then. I am not willing or interested to spend the money to find out.

How did the dies move if they weren't being touched, and therefore were being moved by the nut? Where would the drag have been coming from (or were you really torquing down that die body into the press and needing to "break" the die free instead of a simple twist?)
 
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I find it interesting that Lee makes a Breech Lock bushing with a spit lock ring built into it.

Is it possible that Lee recognizes that people have different needs and different preferences?

That would seem reasonable. Some people like Lee's rings, some don't. I don't like lock rings with set screws and I don't like 'quick change' die bushings at all but I have sense enough to know what I do and don't like isn't much of a gage for what's good or bad for others. Nor is a different preference a reflection on the other guy's intelligence!
 
I have dies from about every US maker there is and was and I think with about every combination of lock rings/nuts there is.
They all work.
I'm not even sure I could point to one as favored over another.
 
I've used both rcbs and lee does I prefer lee pistol dies for their powder through expander die. I prefer rcbs rifle dies because they seem to hold seating depth better for me.
 
I have used Lees, RCBS, Lyman and a few others over the years and always go back to Lee's. Once adjusted and locked they never seem to move. I do have some with the split nut and set screw I didn't really like them. Once you get used to something you figure out the quirks. Good Luck.
I like the idea of a turret press with 6 holes so once set all the dies don't have to be removed until you are complete.
 
Lock ring preference should be largely dependent on what kind of press you use.

Once adjusted and locked they never seem to move.
I agree, the nut doesn't move, if you aren't inept. But I also agree with Cfullgraf. The nut can move while screwing the die in/out, even if you turn just the nut. You may have to turn both, together, to ensure it doesn't move.

your press is tighter than mine on that hole then man..
It's not the "tightness" of the hole or the threading. No matter how loose the threading, the threads on the die will be pushing UP against the threads of the press as you torque the ring down. This can make the die stop moving while you turn just the nut. It might happen only with certain dies, at certain points of adjustment, but it certainly can happen on any press.

Of course, this is easily overcome with a little experience and feel, if you take care and pay attention when screwing in the die and nut together. BUT... you can still end up with small variations just due to where you stop torquing your die in the press. Cuz with the Lee rings, you can always manage to turn a bit more or less, depending on how tight you squash the O ring.

I tend to aim my adjustments to where one corner of the lock ring points to a specific mark on my press, so I know where I'm supposed to stop tightening. But this takes more time and attention, on top of making sure that the lock ring doesn't move in relation to the die.

The one benefit of the Lee rings is that they're faster and easier to adjust. No question, there.

So let's look at how people use dies. Over a lifetime, a SS press user might screw a die in/out hundreds of times and adjust it only on rare occasions. So the advantage for SS press users goes to Hornady split rings, IMO. (Or the Breechlock bushings, except they're more expensive.) Yeah, the hex screw locking rings are a relative PITA to adjust, but you don't have to do it very often. OTOH, the hundreds of times you screw the dies in/out, you can zip it in with one hand, turning the die from the top, without looking or paying attention. And when it stops, it's tight. You don't have to carefully torque it down another quarter-or-so, like with the Lee ring.

But the turret/progressive user that uses tool heads/turrets might screw a die in only once. So I don't see why anyone would object to the Lee ring, in this scenario. They'll stay put if you're not messing with them, AND they're easier to adjust when you WANT them to change.
 
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