20 year old man attacks a 87 year old man, 87 year old man wins.

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Resident captures intruder (87 yr old versus 20 yr old)

Resident captures intruder

By Stacey Creasy/Editor



MACOMB - Leonard Gamage is sore today, which is understandable since he spent more than 45 minutes fighting off an intruder late Friday.

Gamage, 87, suffered some bumps and bruises in a pair of fights with the intruder, who is an unidentified 20-year man. Leonard told the Journal he does feel good about still having the ability to defend his home.

"I'm an old soldier," Gamage said. "I was in quite a few scuffles in the Army. I feel like I can still go if I have to."

Gamage said the ordeal started just after 9 p.m. He was watching television at his home, located at 1200th Road, near Macomb, when someone came to his front door. Gamage said he went to the back door since both doors face the patio.

Gamage did not recognize the young man. When he went to open the door, he said the man grabbed the screen door and forced himself inside the house.

"I asked him what he wanted and told him to get out," Gamage said.

The intruder allegedly refused to leave. That is when Gamage and the young man got into their first altercation.

"We started to scuffle right there in the kitchen," Gamage recalled. "I was able to get him outside the house and told him again to get out."

Gamage said he remembered having a pair of rifles in a gun rack inside the house. As he started in that direction, he and the man began to fight again at the back door, in the kitchen/patio area.

"I was finally able to get my hands on one of the guns and hit him in the back with the gun stock," Gamage said. "That's when he looked at me and said 'I'm going to get you."

Gamage said he was thinking that he would hate to kill the young man, but would if he were left with no choice. Gamage then fired a pair of warning shots, one at each foot, but that did not deter the intruder, according to Gamage, who was feeling weak by this point. Gamage was at the hospital a day earlier being treated for a nose bleed.

"I lost a lot of blood the day before and I was weak," Gamage added. "When he said he was still going to get me, I realized this was serious. I shot him in the left foot. It hit him in the arch and he screamed and started jumping around like a chicken with his head cut off."

Gamage said he pointed the rifle at the suspect's stomach and ordered him to freeze while Gamage made a telephone call. Instead of calling 911, Gamage called a neighbor, Tom Friday, and told him he had been attacked.

When he went back the intruder was gone. Gamage said he did not feel comfortable knowing the suspect was out there, so he went into the dark, looking for the young man.

Gamage said he spotted the suspect near the garage, next to the barn. Gamage crept up behind the man and ordered him not to move or he would kill him.

"About that time Tom pulled up," Gamage said. "I think he was shocked because I was holding the intruder at gunpoint."

Seconds later Gamage said multiple police cars, an ambulance and fire rescue units all converged on his home.

The ordeal was finally over. It was about 10:45 p.m.

"The intruder would not tell the police nothing but his name," Gamage said. "I told them what happened, but I think they want to come out again Monday for a detailed interview."

McDonough County Sheriff Mike Johnson, who responded to the scene at the Gamage residence, said the suspect was taken to McDonough District Hospital and treated for his gunshot wound.

The defendant's name is being withheld.

His condition is unknown. Johnson said the incident remains under investigation and charges are pending against the man, who is said to be a WIU student.

Gamage was trying to take it easy Saturday, in-between interviews with the media about what took place.

Ironically, Gamage lost the very rifle that may have saved his life.

"I do not have a gun permit so they had to take my rifles," Gamage said. "The sheriff told me if I get my permit, he would see what he could do to help me get them back.

I never use them, but they have been in the family a long time."

Gamage said the sheriff and other officers told him he "did a hell of a job," defending his property.

"If nothing else I hope this prevents other intruders from breaking into someone's home," Gamage said.

http://www.macombjournal.com/articles/2004/12/05/news/news2.txt

They took his guns? Real smart.... hope he has them back before that kid gets out on bail.
 
He needed a permit for a rifle in his own home?!?! :fire:

What state is this?

EDIT: Looks like its Illinois.
 
It's a good thing that his rifles were removed, and even better that this fact was printed in the news. Now criminals (the real victims here, after all) will be free to victimize this old man in his home to whatever extent that they wish.
 
Oh great. Now he's unarmed and the crook has already said he'll get him.
I would expect that he's a bit more PO'd, now, just waitin' 'till he has the chance for a rematch.

What the police should have done, is to thank him, reward him with a good shotgun and tell him to go for center mass if the miscreant comes back. :scrutiny:
 
1. Get the guy the permit and his guns back
2. Throw the crook in the pen
3. Lobby to remove the permit process as being a waste of time, money, and being unconstitutional.
 
Well at least there's a permit for the guns, they should just be banned for safety now what about:

1. Knifes
2. Blunt Objects
3. I was listening to NPR the other day, someone actually threw a frozen turkey from a freeway overpass onto a moving car in excess of 60-70 mph, it went threw the windshield and put the lady driving in a coma

So, we need to have permits for Turkey's, Freezers, Overpasses, and then ban them, that will be the day, ahhhh

I agree with the center on mass advice as well
 
The permit is known as a FOID card. It stands for firearms owners identification. Here in Illinois we do not register the guns (in most places, but not all since there is no preemption law). Instead we register the owners. Funny thing is that the law states after thirty days of recieving your application they either have to send you a FOID card or a letter saying why you were denied. However, it has being taking several months as of late for applications and renewals. What needs to happen is that a group of gun owners up for renewal or application should send their forms via Fedex or some other shipper with tracking. Then when thirty days have passed they fil a class action lawsuit to get their applications processed immediately.
 
The man is too senile to have a gun ! Warning shots are stupid . An 87 year old against a 20 year old ? The gun made up for the difference in age and he gave up the advantage with warning shots. He survived because of luck. I'd refuse to give him the gun.
 
I agree that there should be no warning shots, but it sounds like the fight was pretty well over by the time the poor old guy got his rifle, at least for the moment. He didn't survive because of luck, he survived because he's a tough old fella that could stand up to a guy 1/4 his age.
And once he started shooting, he seemed to keep his cool, hit where he was aiming and handle the situation, so I'd say he should definitely get his guns back. (provided he agrees to aim for the middle next time! ;) )
 
20 year old man attacks a 87 year old man., 87 year old man wins.

Resident captures intruder

By Stacey Creasy/Editor
MACOMB - Leonard Gamage is sore today, which is understandable since he spent more than 45 minutes fighting off an intruder late Friday.

Gamage, 87, suffered some bumps and bruises in a pair of fights with the intruder, who is an unidentified 20-year man. Leonard told the Journal he does feel good about still having the ability to defend his home.

"I'm an old soldier," Gamage said. "I was in quite a few scuffles in the Army. I feel like I can still go if I have to."

Gamage said the ordeal started just after 9 p.m. He was watching television at his home, located at 1200th Road, near Macomb, when someone came to his front door. Gamage said he went to the back door since both doors face the patio.

Gamage did not recognize the young man. When he went to open the door, he said the man grabbed the screen door and forced himself inside the house.

"I asked him what he wanted and told him to get out," Gamage said.

The intruder allegedly refused to leave. That is when Gamage and the young man got into their first altercation.

"We started to scuffle right there in the kitchen," Gamage recalled. "I was able to get him outside the house and told him again to get out."

Gamage said he remembered having a pair of rifles in a gun rack inside the house. As he started in that direction, he and the man began to fight again at the back door, in the kitchen/patio area.

"I was finally able to get my hands on one of the guns and hit him in the back with the gun stock," Gamage said. "That's when he looked at me and said 'I'm going to get you."

Gamage said he was thinking that he would hate to kill the young man, but would if he were left with no choice. Gamage then fired a pair of warning shots, one at each foot, but that did not deter the intruder, according to Gamage, who was feeling weak by this point. Gamage was at the hospital a day earlier being treated for a nose bleed.

"I lost a lot of blood the day before and I was weak," Gamage added. "When he said he was still going to get me, I realized this was serious. I shot him in the left foot. It hit him in the arch and he screamed and started jumping around like a chicken with his head cut off."

Gamage said he pointed the rifle at the suspect's stomach and ordered him to freeze while Gamage made a telephone call. Instead of calling 911, Gamage called a neighbor, Tom Friday, and told him he had been attacked.

When he went back the intruder was gone. Gamage said he did not feel comfortable knowing the suspect was out there, so he went into the dark, looking for the young man.

Gamage said he spotted the suspect near the garage, next to the barn. Gamage crept up behind the man and ordered him not to move or he would kill him.

"About that time Tom pulled up," Gamage said. "I think he was shocked because I was holding the intruder at gunpoint."

Seconds later Gamage said multiple police cars, an ambulance and fire rescue units all converged on his home.

The ordeal was finally over. It was about 10:45 p.m.

"The intruder would not tell the police nothing but his name," Gamage said. "I told them what happened, but I think they want to come out again Monday for a detailed interview."

McDonough County Sheriff Mike Johnson, who responded to the scene at the Gamage residence, said the suspect was taken to McDonough District Hospital and treated for his gunshot wound.

The defendant's name is being withheld.

His condition is unknown. Johnson said the incident remains under investigation and charges are pending against the man, who is said to be a WIU student.

Gamage was trying to take it easy Saturday, in-between interviews with the media about what took place.

Ironically, Gamage lost the very rifle that may have saved his life.

"I do not have a gun permit so they had to take my rifles," Gamage said. "The sheriff told me if I get my permit, he would see what he could do to help me get them back.

I never use them, but they have been in the family a long time."

Gamage said the sheriff and other officers told him he "did a hell of a job," defending his property.

"If nothing else I hope this prevents other intruders from breaking into someone's home," Gamage said.

I'd rather he shot the guy instead of risking his life with warning shots but since he lives in Maryland, they'd probably give him more jail time than the guy who attacked him. :banghead:

Not to mention that he needs a permit to keep a rifle in his own home.
 
i hope he is able to get his guns back, what a shame it is to have them taken especially since they are family guns. stupid :cuss: laws :fire:
 
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Still a good story, good man. But why the cops didn't just shrug it off and give them man a 12ga semi for HD is :barf: despicable.

Hey the man served the Army, duh
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'Never get in a fight with an old guy. Either you beat up an old guy, or you getr beat up by an old guy. Either way, it doesn't look good for you' Or smoething like that anyways.

And is it just me, or do some people have no sense? They guy got a warning shot, and he came back for more?

Good for the old guy (minus the guns are gone)
 
"I do not have a gun permit so they had to take my rifles," Gamage said. "The sheriff told me if I get my permit, he would see what he could do to help me get them back.
I cannot begin to describe how much that pisses me off. :fire:
 
At 87 years of age, his posession of firearms which had been in his family for many years might precede the legislation requiring registration. I suspect he never even thought about it. He was able to hold his own against the attacker for almost two hours, so disparity of force wasn't what we might assume. In any event, WELL DONE, SIR!
 
duplicate threads merged

I hope the old dude gets a permit and gets his guns back. The young dude needs to do some serious time for senior abuse, battery, burglary and anything else he can be nailed with.
 
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