22-250 and setup

[Halt]

Well, I am 17 and looking at my first gun and I was looking at the Remington 700 sps ss 22-250. it will be a varmit gun only. I would like to be able to get out and reach a ground hog, yote, etc. soo the 22-250 was catching my eye. and I was also wondering around what kinda of scope would be good for that gun. I was looking at 0 - 150 for scope if not more I dont know...

what would be good.
thanks

 

[rangerruck]

on a varmint rig setup, the more power the better. I would go with a Tasco varmint in 6.24.42. about 100 or so bucks, they will let you see teeny things way out there. plus they are tough enough, I had one on a ParkerHale ultralite 308, and it never lost zero.

 

[Outlaws]

Don't take this the wrong way, but if you can only afford $150 tops for a scope, you probably cannot afford to own a 22-250. I say stick with a .223.

 

[dfaugh]

No offence to anyone....

But, while there is something to be said for spending big $$$$$ on a scope, I have ALWAYS used inexpensive scopes (Tasco in particular).

Yeas the optics aren't quite as good, especially in low light. But I've never had mechanical problems, etc. I just never could bring myself to spend as much for a scope as I did for the gun.

Besides Tasco, I've been looking at the Barska scopes, and they look to decent for the money. The one person I know that has one, is very happy with it.

 

[SUBMOAS]

Think about .223

If you don't reload I would really recomend that you look at the .223. You will save a lot of money on ammo. Also remember that the SPS is a standard barrel and not a bull barrel. If you get into really good dogs you could shoot 100-500 rounds. That barrel would and will heat up fast.

The most important, YOUR RIFLE IS ONLY AS GOOD AS YOUR OPTICS....

I know I will be hearing from this.....


Good Luck, Gary

 

[steelhead]

The light barrel is going to be ok for coyotes but not for high volume shooting at hogs and dogs. Take a look at Savage with a HB or Remington if they have it.

As for scopes, I had a Tasco Varmit 6-24 and it held zero well but it became too dark for me at any setting above 16X. Take a look at the Mueller brand of scopes for something that is a little better (brighter) than the Tasco but not much more expensive. Even better, a used Sightron, Burris, Nikon in the $250 range.

I agree that if you are on a budget then the .223 is a better choice.

 

[X-Rap]

I love the 22-250 and own some but if I were just starting I'd look at 204 Ruger. As far as a scope I can't remember paying more than $150.00 for a used mid range scope, this being straight power leupold or burris 6x 10x or adjutable VXII to 14x or 3x9 burris. The last Burris 10x was $100.00 a couple mos. ago. Most important is a good trigger. Try using an inside the mouth reed it keeps your hands free and doesen't freeze up while its in your mouth.

 

[Idano]

Halt Stick with your decision and go with the 22-250. There nothing wrong with the .223, I have one of those too in an AR but my M700 ADL is tack driver and much flatter shooting. Go with rangerruck recommendation and buy th Tasco 6x24 Target with a 44mm objective; it is excellent scope for the money around $140. However, like the others mentioned if you don't reload you need to start. I don't know any serious varmint hunters that don't reload and a 22-250 is a serious varmint rifle.

 

[fitoo1]

There is something else to think about also. Im not familiar with the model that your looking at, but if is a sporter wieght bbl, if it were me, Id end up with a 3x9 or a 4x12 at the most in weaver, burris, or nikon (in your price range if not a little bit more, and very good scopes). IMO you will ruin the "handiness" of lighter rifle by putting a big cumbersome scope (6-24 and the like) on it. If the rifle your looking at is a varmint weight rig, its already cumbersome so your not going to hurt its practicality by putting a big scope on it.

You get what you pay for in hi mag scopes. Ive had quite a few and would opt for a lower magnification or even fixed mag in a less expensive higher quality scope than a cheap hi mag scope...Ive had trouble with cheaper scopes keeping thier zero and being mechanically accurate. Just my opinion. Id put an old 6x weaver on a varmint rig long before Id put a 6-24 tasco on it...again no offense and its just my opinion.

I had a H&R Handi rifle in .223 with a leupold 4x12 vx1 on it. When I went for 'hogs or night time predator hunting...Id grab it a whole heck of a lot more that my m700 vs in .22-250 with a 6.5x20 nikon on it. It wasnt as accurate as my Remington....but I could hit anything out to 250 yards with it all day and all night long with it. Those guns are great, you save money by buying a relitivly inexpensive refile and can put more into optics and can afford to shoot with it more so you can get real good.

 

[Halt]

Thanks guys

I am definatly going to stick with 22-250... I am not really on a money budget I just didn't want to spend 500 on a gun then turn around on but a 400 dollar scope just for some varms. soo thanks to the guys who said the tasco 6x24 would be a great choice. Thanks for you help and that's what I will probably get.

 

[richardschennberg]

No fair making such a good choice on your first rifle!
Consider shopping around for a used scope.
Either make sure it is in good shape, or get one with a lifetime warranty and send it back to the manufacturer for repair.
Richard
Schennberg.com

 

[GunNut]

While i really liked my .22-250, i've decided to switch back to .223 for a walking around varmint gun.

Swift scopes seem to be pretty good for a reasonably priced rifle scope. I've owned quite a few of them and only had one that needed to be replaced. It was partly my fault for letting it bounce around so much in my truck.

Steve

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

The 22-250 is an amazingly accurate varmint caliber. I've "reached out and touched" ground squirrels at distances that I couldn't dream of doing with my AR (although it's not a benchrest model).
I've had good luck with Leupold scopes but they can be pricey. You might look for a used one (beware I've heard there are some fake leupods being sold on ebay however). Get as much power as you can afford. If you want to try out a cheap scope, go for it. you can always sell it if you don't like it.

 

[BrainOnSigs]

I recently moved away from .223 and .22-250 and converted to .204 Ruger for my varmint hunting. I have used the .204 in the field and on paper out to 500 yards. It flat out performs. The majority of my varmint shooting is at P-dogs. .223 and .22-250 is still an excellent choice for lower volume shooting such as 'yote hunting.

Here is a good read on the .20s.

http://www.6mmbr.com/20Caliber.html


Excerpt:

The Velocity Edge--A .204 Ruger drives a 40-grainer 600 fps faster than a .223 Rem can push the typical 22-Caliber 50gr bullet. This higher velocity produces a flatter trajectory. Additionally, grain for grain, 20-Caliber bullets have higher ballistic coefficients than .224 bullets. Combine this with the extra velocity of the 20-Caliber, and you get superior performance in the wind. Run the numbers and you'll see--a 40-grainer shot from a .204 Ruger has less drop AND less wind drift than a 40gr or 50gr bullet fired from a .223 Rem. You'll find the data in the chart below.

Component Economy and Barrel Life--All the Twenties burn way less powder than a 22-250, and the smaller Twenties use less powder than a .223 Rem. This attribute actually has two advantages. First, it makes shooting 20-Caliber cartridges more economical, but mostly it means less barrel heat. A typical varmint hunter may shoot several hundred rounds in one day, so barrel heat is an important issue.

Terminal Ballistics--For hunters seeking maximum explosive effect on a small varmint, Twenties deliver the goods. Because it passes through the rifling much more quickly, a 20-Caliber bullet will be turning much higher RPMs than a 22-caliber bullet launched from a barrel of similar twist rate. Experienced varminters will tell you that high spin rates create the most explosive impacts. On the other hand, if you shoot a non-fragmenting bullet, the Twenty can minimize hide/fur damage. If you plan to keep the fur, you want the smallest possible hole or damage to it.


Another good .204 read authored by a friend and hunting partner....Dr. Ken Lunde.

http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek047.html


PS: If you are looking to shoot at longer distances....and at small targets....save up for good optics. I would rather have an average rifle with great optics than a great rifle with average optics. IMHO.....

 

[GrandmasterB]

If you are looking for an excellent scope in the $100 range, the Simmons Whitetail Classic 6.5-20x50 is hard to beat. http://www.riflescopes.com/departme...es/simmons_whitetail_classic_rifle_scopes.htm

 

[K.L.O.sako]

i'd have to say take a good look at the new simmons line. there owned by meade instruments now and they have revamped there whole scope construction methods. good glass, rock solid internals, and good prices. meade now owns simmons, redfield, and weaver. all have the same internals(true zero) but the last two have better glass, finishes, and features. any of the three is money well spent.