.22 brass stuck in barrel

[ripcurlksm]

Fired a shot from the .22 rifle, bullet shot, brass got stuck real good. In my efforts to tap it out I've managed to punch out the rim of the brass as well. So I have a perfect cylinder stuck inside the barrel. There is an edge of brass left that I have been trying to get out with angled needle nose pliers but its in there real good.

Its impossible to pull out with pliers.

I think I need to tap it out from the other end with something perhaps, any suggestions?

 

[rcmodel]

Try a cleaning rod down from the muzzle, then screw a .25 caliber bronze brush on and pull it back about half-way into the chambered case.
The brush bristles will fold back in order to enter the smaller case.

Now, tap it back out.
(The brush bristles may be able to grab hold of the case mouth.)

Failing that, I would tamp a tight fitting patch plug right in front of the case and fill it full of Epoxy or JB Weld.
Be very careful not to get any in the rifling in front of the chamber!

The next day, after it sets up, use a cleaning rod to knock it out.

BTW: How in the world did you get one stuck that tight in the first place?
You ain't Hot hand-loading .22 RF are you?


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[PTK]

Cast that with Cerrosafe and tap it out when cooled. It'll work like a champ.

 

[ripcurlksm]

no just an old cruddy barrel i guess.

I like the ideas

I also am wondering if i can immerse it in dry ice and shrink the brass?

 

[dfariswheel]

Insert a wood screw that's slightly smaller than the bore.
DO NOT use one that's large enough to contact the chamber.

Screw it in until the threads thread into the brass.
Grip the screw head with pliers and gently pull the casing out.

This works much like stuck casing extractors work in reloading dies.

 

[JCT]

You can't damage steel with brass, because brass is so much softer. Find a brass rod to tap it out. Or, find a brass screw to screw into it.
You could probably even use a hardwood dowel to tap it out.

 

[ripcurlksm]

dowel broke. I have a metal ram rod that works good but, is just small enough to fit into the brass and it busted out the back.

thanks

 

[351 WINCHESTER]

Find a brass screw (wood screw) and screw it into the chamber until it grips the case. Tap it out from the other side. Once you get it out clean the chamber really well and check for rust & or pitting. If it's pitted you will have to polish the chamber to remove the pitting or rush otherwise it will happen again.

 

[dahermit]

something very wrong!

There has to be something very wrong for a spent .22 rim-fire casing to be stuck that hard in the barrel. Before using any mechanical means for removing the casing, I would apply penetrating oil to the case and chamber and let it sit for at least 24 hours. Then when you do get the case out, I would inspect the chamber to determine why it stuck in the first place.

The two most likely: 1) Dirty chamber. Clean more often. 2) Severely corroded chamber...If pitted chamber is the problem...you are in big trouble.

 

[Jim K]

No matter what you do to get out that case, I think there is something seriously wrong with the chamber, either badly pitted or bulged. You don't say if you had fired the rifle previously with no problems, but I suspect it is an older gun and you were firing it for the first time in a while.

What I am leading up to is the distinct possibility that even if you get that case out, the same thing will happen the next time. My advice is to hang the gun on the wall. If it has any considerable value, you might want to consider if it is worth re-barrelling or lining the old barrel. (I can't tell from the pictures even what kind of rifle it is, so I am being rather general.)

Jim

 

[IMtheNRA]

What about using a drywall anchor screw? The plastic anchor will expand in the brass case as you turn in the screw and then you can try tapping out the whole assembly. Maybe worth a try...

 

[tblt]

good idea IMtheNRA

 

[rcmodel]

Seems to me any kind of brass screw screwed into the case, anchor screw, etc. is just going to compound the problem by expanding the case even tighter into the chamber if it's tightened enough to get a good grip.

I still vote for trying the JB Weld.
It at least won't make the case any tighter then it already is.

BTW: I can't tell from your pictures what kind of rifle that is?

Any chance it has a Williams Floating Chamber, like a 550 Remington?


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[Jim K]

A gunshop can't have a headless case remover for every caliber (they only make them for a few), so we usually used a tap of the proper size, just enough to cut into the case without touching the chamber wall. I see no reason a brass screw wouldn't do the job as well and wouldn't mar the chamber.

Still, as I said, I suspect that chamber is already in bad shape.

Jim

 

[rcmodel]

I agree a tap would take it out.
But like Dirty Harry always said:
"A man has to know his limitations."

From the pictures, it looks to me like the barrel might have to come out of the receiver to get a tap started in there straight.

And there is no doubt the chamber is in really bad shape.
Or that was a "Blue Pill" load of some kind?
I have never seen a .22 case stuck that tight in my life!

Still sure would like to know what kind of gun it is though?


rcmodel

 

[351 WINCHESTER]

I wonder if he ever got it out?

 

[ripcurlksm]

Not yet, will update my failure asap

Its an old Remington 550-I -- no doubt the barrel is cruddy.

I just love this thing because its a semi-auto

 

[rcmodel]

Well there you go then!
Now, we are getting somewhere.
(See post #13 above)

The Remington 550-1 has a "Williams Floating Chamber" insert.

No doubt, the floating chamber is stuck back due to powder fouling, and the brass has then expanded into the gap left in front of it.
(Like a flaired rivet head!)

You will need to pull the gun apart and remove the floating chamber, along with the stuck brass. Once you get the floating chamber out of the barrel, you can easily deal with the case.

It ain't gonna come out any other way!


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[ripcurlksm]

Very cool, thanks rc

 

[gnprts]

ripcurlksm.. I you are not familiar with disassembly and assembly of the Remington 550-1 get a help guide since the large screw in the bottom of the action that holds the sear spring is tricky to get back in with out cross threading it. It will not line up if you try the screw it back in with the sear installed with the through pin. I know that it looks easy but I have seen several that were so bad the receiver had to be replaced and I doubt that any are available now.....

 

[Travlin]

DON'T GIVE UP ON THIS GUN if it is a Remington 550-1.

I had the exact same thing happen to me 40 years ago with a Remington 550-1. Being an ignorant kid I took the gun apart until I could get enough access to pull the casing out. No way could I get it together again. Fortunately I knew an old master mechanic who loved guns and he reassembled it.

IT NEVER HAD A PROBLEM AGAIN AND SHOOTS FLAWLESSLY TO THIS DAY. Many who have owned this rifle consider it one of the finest .22 autos ever made. The unique floating chamber allows it to fire shorts, longs, and long rifles interchangeably from the same magazine. My problem was with a short round so I've never used one again and never had a problem. You might do well to avoid using the cheapest ammo too. This gun is worth the effort to save. You'll be glad you did.

 

[ripcurlksm]

It is at the smith and he is going to gut it and put in shiny new parts. Thanks to all for your time!

 

[ripcurlksm]

Got it back, the brass expanded in the floating chamber causing it to jam. This is the best picture I could get. I was using .22 mini mag instead of standard .22 which undoubtedly aided in the expansion. I tapped and pulled the heck out of this thing as you can see, there ain't no way this was coming out easy!

 

[ripcurlksm]

And here she is, thanks for your time folks

 

[Ske1etor]

No doubt, the floating chamber is stuck back due to powder fouling, and the brass has then expanded into the gap left in front of it.
(Like a flaired rivet head!)

Boy, if you didn't hit that nail on the head.

Good call!