Guntoter
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Definitely something lodged in that barrel.
Multiple Bullets Stuck in Barrel (factory loads even!)
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rcmodel
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Forget the dang bore scope!
You already knew there was a bullet stuck in it.
Take a simple cleaning rod, stick it in from each end, mark it both times.
And then measure the difference with a .99 cent ruler!
That will give you a accurate idea of the length of the obstruction a bore scope simply cannot tell you anything about.
Have you done that yet?
Rc
You already knew there was a bullet stuck in it.
Take a simple cleaning rod, stick it in from each end, mark it both times.
And then measure the difference with a .99 cent ruler!
That will give you a accurate idea of the length of the obstruction a bore scope simply cannot tell you anything about.
Have you done that yet?
Rc
wacki
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Exactly 2.5 inches.
wacki
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I'm really not going comment much further on this other than what I have already said. I'm just as baffled by this as you guys are.
It was the last few shots of a shooting session and I haven't shot that rifle in a rather long time. As I said before, I thought I has simply missed the target. All I shoot in 308 is factory ammo. Pretty sure moly coat was the only sans copper ammo I have. The rest? Military surplus and boxes like this (link)
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rcmodel
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Dude, your picture is so dang big it just blew the TINY text out of the water on my iPad.
Size the picture correctly, or delete it.
Not sure what a hemungus photo of some old ammo boxes has to do with this anyway.
Nobody on this side of the globe factory loads moly coated lead bullets in .308 Winchester in the first place!
Rc
Size the picture correctly, or delete it.
Not sure what a hemungus photo of some old ammo boxes has to do with this anyway.
Nobody on this side of the globe factory loads moly coated lead bullets in .308 Winchester in the first place!
Rc
wacki
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pic changed to link.
Did anyone ever make moly coated bullets? Keep in mind that this ammo is old. You can see the stickers say $8 a box for American eagle.
Did anyone ever make moly coated bullets? Keep in mind that this ammo is old. You can see the stickers say $8 a box for American eagle.
Like many others have said, I think you will have to remove that bullet through mechanical means. I would oil the barrel fore and aft of the bullet and use something like a hydralic press to push the bullet out. Smooth and controlled instead of sharp hits with a hammer.
Still there is a chance the barrel will be damaged internally. Barrel steel is soft, you don't want hard steel, such as cutting tools, but you need a rod stiff enough that it does not collapse or mushroom, and become a plug by itself.
Too bad it is 30 caliber, as that hole is rather small, large caliber blackpowder rifles used various versions of "worms" to dig into soft lead projectiles and pull them out. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/115714/cva-black-powder-bullet-puller-50-caliber
Still there is a chance the barrel will be damaged internally. Barrel steel is soft, you don't want hard steel, such as cutting tools, but you need a rod stiff enough that it does not collapse or mushroom, and become a plug by itself.
Too bad it is 30 caliber, as that hole is rather small, large caliber blackpowder rifles used various versions of "worms" to dig into soft lead projectiles and pull them out. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/115714/cva-black-powder-bullet-puller-50-caliber
rcmodel
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Yes.
Lots of company's made and sold moly coated jacketed bullets in .308 Winchester.
But not pure lead moly-coated bullets in .308 Winchester caliber.
And not back then when those factory boxes in the photo you deleted were made.
If they were moly-coated lead, they were somebody's powder-puff pistol powder reloads.
And that right there is the only logical explanation for the reason you stuck a bullet and then continued to shoot without your barrel or action blowing up in your face on the second shot!
rc
Lots of company's made and sold moly coated jacketed bullets in .308 Winchester.
But not pure lead moly-coated bullets in .308 Winchester caliber.
And not back then when those factory boxes in the photo you deleted were made.
If they were moly-coated lead, they were somebody's powder-puff pistol powder reloads.
And that right there is the only logical explanation for the reason you stuck a bullet and then continued to shoot without your barrel or action blowing up in your face on the second shot!
rc
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Guntoter
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I've never seen any high velocity rifle cartridges commercially loaded with solid lead and what would be the point of adding Moly to them? Lead is already about as self lubricating as it gets and at full .308 velocity no lube or lead hardness is going to prevent massive leading.
There was (and maybe still is) a snake oil product that consisted of loaded rounds with lead bullets impregnated with various abrasives that supposedly allowed you to shoot hone your mediocre factory barrel into a glass smooth custom. I'm sure it worked wonders. I expect these were reduced loads.
I see a Umarex box in your ammo stack. That isn't what I'd call a "factory load", it's reloaded ammo. I don't know what their facilities look like but it could be a two car garage.
There was (and maybe still is) a snake oil product that consisted of loaded rounds with lead bullets impregnated with various abrasives that supposedly allowed you to shoot hone your mediocre factory barrel into a glass smooth custom. I'm sure it worked wonders. I expect these were reduced loads.
I see a Umarex box in your ammo stack. That isn't what I'd call a "factory load", it's reloaded ammo. I don't know what their facilities look like but it could be a two car garage.
wacki
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Didn't realize moly bullets turned color. I may of been wrong about what I shot.
http://www.6mmbr.com/bulletcoating.html
All ammo was bought at a major big box store like gander mountain, dicks, etc.
http://www.6mmbr.com/bulletcoating.html
All ammo was bought at a major big box store like gander mountain, dicks, etc.
chris allen
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Done this before to remove stuck rifle bullets in bore .
Steel rod slightly smaller than bore diam . Take this rod and drill on end with a 1/8 dia drill (going to soft solder this drill into the hole you just made in the steel rod ). dont need to be too deep into the rod . Drill length will have to be longer than the obstruction ,so you can drill all the way thru the obstruction
Take another rod and turn the end to a point ,this is going to be your center punch .Take another rod that will be made to push the bullets out . This rod drill a concave using a center drill ,to fit the point of the bullet
Now that you have 3 rods made :
1 -Use the rod with a point to make a center punch on the obsruction
2- Use the rod with the driil soldered onto it and drill thru the obsruction (just need to make a hole thru )
3- take a propane torch and heat area where the obstruction is ,with the bore pointing down. The idea is to melt the lead out
4 Once the lead is melted from the jackets ,use the concave rod to push the jackets out .
There is no need the use arbors or beating on anything ,once the lead is out the jackets remove easily .
Chris
Steel rod slightly smaller than bore diam . Take this rod and drill on end with a 1/8 dia drill (going to soft solder this drill into the hole you just made in the steel rod ). dont need to be too deep into the rod . Drill length will have to be longer than the obstruction ,so you can drill all the way thru the obstruction
Take another rod and turn the end to a point ,this is going to be your center punch .Take another rod that will be made to push the bullets out . This rod drill a concave using a center drill ,to fit the point of the bullet
Now that you have 3 rods made :
1 -Use the rod with a point to make a center punch on the obsruction
2- Use the rod with the driil soldered onto it and drill thru the obsruction (just need to make a hole thru )
3- take a propane torch and heat area where the obstruction is ,with the bore pointing down. The idea is to melt the lead out
4 Once the lead is melted from the jackets ,use the concave rod to push the jackets out .
There is no need the use arbors or beating on anything ,once the lead is out the jackets remove easily .
Chris
xfyrfiter
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Finally someone who knows that lead melts before steel LOL. ps only took 113 posts.
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chris allen
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Same principal . I use this system for jacketed bullets .
Lead bullets just melt them out if not easily pushed out with a good rod.
No need to using presses ,hydraulics, arbors or brute force
Chris
Lead bullets just melt them out if not easily pushed out with a good rod.
No need to using presses ,hydraulics, arbors or brute force
Chris
xfyrfiter
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OOps must have missed that one . My bad.
RetiredUSNChief
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No worries!
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I would be tempted to drill the muzzle end to the correct size and tap the first 1/2 inch for 1/4 inch pipe ! then install a grease fitting and pump the bullets out with a grease gun ! then get the barrel re-crowned ! kevin
Drill the centers out use a brass rod to knock out the rest and then clean out the mess then magnaflux the action stress area and the barrel obstruction area. If no stress cracks are found you should be good to go.
I bought a Savage Model 1905. I shot it and it shot well. I gave it to my niece as a spare for her other two. Well she left it in storage in a gun case and the humidity rusted this specif one. I had to soak it in ATF for a week before I could start to take it apart. after I had if apart I found what had been part of the problem getting it apart.
At some time in its life it had suffered two squib loads as the barrel has a nice bulge that was not visable because it is usually covered by the slide. The gun shot fine before I gave it to her I easily had put a hundred rounds through it.
Fortunately I had a bunch of parts so I was able to put it back into service and it works well with a different barrel.
I bought a Savage Model 1905. I shot it and it shot well. I gave it to my niece as a spare for her other two. Well she left it in storage in a gun case and the humidity rusted this specif one. I had to soak it in ATF for a week before I could start to take it apart. after I had if apart I found what had been part of the problem getting it apart.
At some time in its life it had suffered two squib loads as the barrel has a nice bulge that was not visable because it is usually covered by the slide. The gun shot fine before I gave it to her I easily had put a hundred rounds through it.
Fortunately I had a bunch of parts so I was able to put it back into service and it works well with a different barrel.
Dave P
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Heat the barrel cherry red with your torch. Pour out lead. Hammer it out until it is flattened. Attach cheap handle. Make a nice knife from it. Sell it to your buddy. But a new barrel. Jeesh! :banghead:
Guntoter
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Is there a YouTube video up yet?
Scooter22
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Waiting for April 1st.
anothernewb
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Meh
My .02 - I'd just throw the barrel away and buy a new one. you'll drive yourself batcrap crazy trying to remove whatever's in it, not to mention that the removal process will probably irreparably damage the barrel too. The barrel's 99% likely to be toast anyway. Count yourself lucky it didn't blow up in your face and kill you or maim you for life.
My .02 - I'd just throw the barrel away and buy a new one. you'll drive yourself batcrap crazy trying to remove whatever's in it, not to mention that the removal process will probably irreparably damage the barrel too. The barrel's 99% likely to be toast anyway. Count yourself lucky it didn't blow up in your face and kill you or maim you for life.
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