22 for home defense.. what should I use?

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I have a Ruger 22 Single Six New Model. It's a 22 with an interchangeable 22 magnum cylinder.

It's my only gun, so I'm stuck with the 22 caliber. I have some Remington 22 magnums hollow point, 22 lr, and CCI full jacket 22 magnum 40 grain, CCI 22 Magnum explosive hollow point .

Which one is best for home defense? I was thinking the CCI 30 grain 22 magnum explosive hollow point??
 
CCI full jacket 22 magnum 40 grain

These. The .22 is less than ideal and you need penetration, the FMJ or lead round nose are your best bet.

Step 2 is make your next gun better suited for HD.
 
The Single Six is a fine revolver,..one of the very best in fact,..but it wasn't intended for SD/HD,...so don't try to make it something it isn't. If it were all I had,.. and all I could get,... I'd stoke it with a good hollow point magnums, use it,...and go for shot placement. Practice Practice Practice. Save up and get a bigger caliber gun for SD/HD as you can.
 
Yeah, I won't be able to get any other gun. I have to stick with this. So, the CCI hollow point magnum explosive rounds aren't any good for home defense? I'll stick with the .22 magnums, non hollow point then.
 
So, the CCI hollow point magnum explosive rounds aren't any good for home defense?

They are great for small critters in which the vital organs aren't very far under the skin. In a human, they will rapidly fragment and it is very possible that no fragments will reach any important organs.
 
There's nothing especially wrong with using a 22 mag revolver for defense. If you point it at someone and threaten to shoot them, they probably won't ignore you because of the caliber. To a dirtbag, any barrel of a loaded firearm probably looks pretty much the same.

In many articles posted in the NRA's Armed Citizen column, in the majority of them in fact, the successful home defender usually fires a single shot and the unwanted intruders scramble to escape. In convenience store videos you can see on YouTube, where the clerk pulls a pistol on the robbers, just the pistol or a single shot usually has them flying out the door. Armed resistance in and of itself can be quite formidable.

There is a definite group-think at work on this board and other gun boards that presumes that every assailant will be a 7-foot, 300lb, hulking brute of a monster, high on drugs, enraged to the point where not even 5 rounds of .357 will stop him. I've seen people here argue that not even a point-blank round of 00 Buck will stop a determined foe.

My take is that you'll probably never need to shoot at anybody. In the majority of cases where, in the very unlikely event that you do need to fire a gun at someone, one shot or so will probably do the job. In the sum total of such rare events, a very small subset of those will involve an attacker who is willing to walk through a wall of gunfire to get at you and who will not stop, even knowing that he's already dead, and merely moving through the final 10 seconds of his life.

That does happen, sure. Eventually, when you have the means, you can prepare a defense for that. I go large, myself, and have prepared to deal with that sort of threat. Nevertheless, a person armed with a .22 revolver is probably good against most likely threats.

Yeah, I won't be able to get any other gun.

Hopefully, that is a temporary problem. It will be better to increase caliber when you get the chance. For defense, .38spl or 9mm are considered to be the low end of good stopping power.
 
Go for penetration.. I wouldn't use HP's.. They will expand and fragment instead of putting holes in what you want to..

The ideal situation? Hardly.. But many people shoot deer and other human sized game with the 22 mag.. shot placement is key..
 
A 22 fmj magnum bullet will penetrate through a human body, right?

Very dependent on the human body in question and shot placement. But it is much more likely to reach vital organs, if not penetrate completely.

Shockwave's post is a good one, worth another read.

Also, .22 is cheap. No reason not to be well practiced, shot placement is vital for all calibers. Maybe even especially so for smaller ones.
 
I suggest 40gr HP, either copper washed or JHP. It has enough velocity to penetrate deeply enough after expansion.

Cheers!
 
It has enough velocity to penetrate deeply enough after expansion.

Just a point of clarification, is that using information from a rifle or from a handgun? I'm not too familiar with .22 mag ballistics from a handgun, most of the numbers I see are for rifle. Where do you find handgun info?
 
If a .22 is all you have, it is better than nothing. Since you have the Magnum option, use it. I think the conventional hollowpoint would be the best compromise. The FMJ will just poke a tiny (albeit deep) hole, while "explosive hollowpoints" (whatever those are) might just make a shallow "cratering" wound.
 
Yeah, 22 is better than nothing. That's how I'd like to think about it. It's better than a baseball bat or knife next to the bed.
 
information from a rifle or from a handgun

I'm not Shawn, but I'm pretty sure handguns would be the answer. As the makers of .22 Mag ammo don't know which, the JHPs tend to be adjusted for rifle velocities. This makes the JHPs underexpand. Brassfetcher has a good example, but the revolver has a 2 inch barrel. With the OPs Single Six, he should get better expansion, but not as much as a 20 inch rifle.

http://www.brassfetcher.com/index_files/Page1610.htm

Frankly, if that was all I had, I wouldn't feel unarmed, just armed with a long range ice pick that I had to apply carefully. :p
 
CCI Mini-Mags (.22LR) They are consistently reliable, which is something you can't say about most .22 rimfire ammo. You don't want to pull the trigger and hear the dreaded "click". (that's the loudest sound in the world, you know) -- although at least with a revolver you can just try again without having to clear it.
 
Things may have changed but you used to read that a 22 cal weapon has killed more people than any other cal. I prefer a 38 or a 357 but unless the BG is on drugs a 22 will do fine. After the first shot try to place your second shot in a vital area. I do know a 22lr is better for killing snakes than a 22 mag.
 
i would use Stinger CCi 32 gr JHP if all you got is a .22lr , i wouldnt suggest a revolver your better off with a semi-auto pistol or rifle then a revolver.

If it was up to me i sell it and buy a decent 9mm pistol,its just as cheap as a .22lr revolver and 10 times more effective.
 
shockwave's post #7 is a refreshing dose of common sense of a sort not often seen on THR. It should be a required reading sticky in Strategy & Tactics.
 
I was going to say DON'T use a 22 for home defense, but I re-read your posts and realized that it is your only option for now. 22 Mag from a 6 inch barrel will not take full advantage of the cartridge, but again, it is way better than the .22LR from the same. You'll also have a much brighter muzzle flash with the 22 Mag. Make due with what you have, I guess.

Go for penetration & forgo the hollow points. 22's will stop but it takes a while and usually more than one shot if you don't get 'em in the head or heart first. Keep that in mind if you ever have to use it.



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22 for home defense.. what should I use?
I have a Ruger 22 Single Six New Model. It's a 22 with an interchangeable 22 magnum cylinder.

It's my only gun, so I'm stuck with the 22 caliber. I have some Remington 22 magnums hollow point, 22 lr, and CCI full jacket 22 magnum 40 grain, CCI 22 Magnum explosive hollow point .

Which one is best for home defense? I was thinking the CCI 30 grain 22 magnum explosive hollow point??
 
That Single-Six is a great gun and .22mag is potent indeed.
If you feel undergunned just go out when it's good and dark and fan off a cylinder full of .22mag. That'll make you feel better about your gun.
I feel very comfortable when armed with my Single-Six, and yes...you may be undergunned against grizzlies and drug crazed desperados.....but you certainly aren't unarmed.

+1 to shockwave......here's hoping to never need to shoot someone.
 
While it is not a common self defense caliber, the .22WMR (.22 Magnum) is a fairly potent round. I would think about upgrading to something bigger and faster whenever budget allows, but you should not feel undergunned with a Single Six... if you practice and can hit what you are aiming at quickly.

The good thing about a Single Six is that after shooting all six rounds, it makes one hell of a club / hammer.

Congrats on acquiring the SS, they are one hell of a gun. My wife picked one out earlier this year and it is a beauty in the safe and a shooter in the woods. It is one of my favorite guns to shoot. If I could have only one gun, the SS would likely be at the top of the list.
 
Get some of the 40 grain jacketed hollow points. 9 bucks for 50. That magnum is gonna sound like a cannon inside a house.
 
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