22 magnum for coyotes

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The only problem with that for me is that here in Alabama the Beautiful it is a felony to shoot/kill a dog.
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In Arkansas, the law is ambiguous -- you aren't supposed to shoot dogs (a felony) but you have the right to shoot any animal that is "depredating or about to depredate" on your land.
For these feral game (and pet)killers the 3S rule applies.
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Yep -- no call to be talking about it, just do it and cover it up.
 
view I do not share. These are ruthless killers of wild game and young livestock,raiders of wild turkey nests(along with raccoons and 'possums the leader predators of wild turkeys). Anything that is legal that makes them dead is GTG and a .22 mag does that very well.
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Ruthless Killers? You've been watching too many Disney movies. They are a vital part of a healthy ecosystem, they just so happen to be competition for game you want to kill. Sounds like you need to become a better hunter. Just kill all of the predators off so we can have an abundance of prey animals so amateur hunters with no respect for nature can blast away. Great plan. Our ecosystem is about balance, not setting up an outdoor channel experience for everyone that steps intot he woods.
 
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No don't kill all the coyotes, but dang near all keep the suckers on the brink of the endangered list. Just maybe after a few years of that I can get one single deer tag per year instead of waiting 3 years in between tags. Lion's, bobcats, coyotes, bears, just keep popping them with rounds and if the population of deer goes up well issue more tags. After all we are hunters right. I believe in being a good steward but my definition falls different than others. I believe that we can help the deer populations out and cattle. That will put lots more hoofed food around for us too in case we ever really need it . rabbits, quail, pheasant, chukar, turkeys, elk, deer, goats, sheep, antelope. All of the populations have deminished in Colorado. Some blame oil and gas production,global warming, other human pressures. This coinsides with teh government tightening the restictions on predator hunting. Coyotes are all over the highways run over and there are a lot more does running around without fawns. SO to stay on subject shoot a coyote at 70 yards with a 22 mag and send us some pics of the damage cause it's gonna be awesome what that round can do.
 
Ruthless Killers? You've been watching too many Disney movies. They are a vital part of a healthy ecosystem, they just so happen to be competition for game you want to kill. Sounds like you need to become a better hunter. Just kill all of the predators off so we can have an abundance of prey animals so amateur hunters with no respect for nature can blast away. Great plan. Our ecosystem is about balance, not setting up an outdoor channel experience for everyone that steps intot he woods.
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Where did THAT come from? Since the introduction of coyotes in my state a couple of decades ago there is been an explosion of their numbers. They have killed family pets,calves and their mothers during birth as well as contributing greatly to the reduction of bobwhite quail numbers. It's a good thing they don't root like hogs or they would be even more destructive.I don't watch Disney (because of "Bambi") but it seems anyone who did would defend what qualifies as vermin here rather than revile them.
 
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I agree coyotes are bad mojo, especially in numbers and near habitation, and hunting them is good policy. But the whole 'ok to let them suffer because they're evil' thing is just odd; they're ANIMALS, and doing what they do. Attributing evil intent to an animal killing and eating is an odd perspective for a human hunter.....


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I don't think anyone recommended gut shooting coyotes, just saying that if it was to happen then I wouldn't lose sleep over it like it was a game animal. For instance having a 22short in hand when one comes along and gettting crumby shot on a coyote is better than no shot at all. Go watch a coyote take down a fawn and tell me what is cruel and what isn't.
 
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^^^ Yes, someone did recommend gut-shooting coyotes so they run off and die slowly. But this isn't the first thread in which I've seen such cruel nonsense directed at coyotes.
 
So taking a risky shot on an animal is ok because the way in which they take game seems cruel to you? They are animals, they can't use firearms to make a quick kill. Not losing sleep about maiming an animal is sinking below animal level yourself. By your same logic, we should pay no mind if we saw a pack of coyotes taking down a human, afterall, humans are willing to take questionable shots at coyotes. Rediculous.

Game animal, varmint, whatever label you want to put on them, as sportsmen and women we should treat all animals with respect.
 
I agree with post #20 Jimmy is right on I have had to watch yotes ripping fawns apart and eating them alive. If you hit the yote in the gut and it takes a while for him to die way over yonder all the better you don't have to mess with the carcass.

Thats what I said "IF" I guess I could have been more specific. But either way I don't have sympathy for coyote's. I definitely will not be tracking one all over to make sure I got a good shot if it runs off. They are regular merciless killer of the game I hunt and could care less about the method that anyone uses for their removal from a hunting area or residential. Pellet guns are fine by me and legal in some state's.
 
^you really don't understand nature.

On the same line of thinking we should eradicate
all predatory animals to increase your chances for success in the woods.

agree with post #20 Jimmy is right on I have had to watch yotes ripping fawns apart and eating them alive.
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IF you find this behavior (which is totally natural to coyotes), so objectionable, why are you promoting the same behavior? Your post is pure hypocrisy.
 
We are all animals. That seems pretty clear to me that we are just more advanced.

Some people don't spend enough time in the hills to see that nature has no mercy. Coyote's don't take the time to kill their prey, just hurt it enough to start eating. This doesn't make me mad at the coyote it just opens my eyes to some reality. I owe no more to the coyote than it does to a deer. Unless of course it has a nice winter hide that I can make some change from.
 
I am getting way too much entertainment out of your misery, and I also need to go shoot some coyotes on my day off. After that I think I'll club my wife and drag her back in the cave for some quality time. Have fun hugging bunnies and watching bambi. Don't forget some granola and yogurt for lunch. Maybe some humus too.
 
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Sorry, HG. I misunderstood what you were saying. I'm with you 100 percent.
 
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I sure will, and I am definintely not miserable. Keyboard commandos like yourself are all talk. Doubtful you've seena coyote int he wild. I do love hummus, and granola. Pass on the yogurt, it gives me gas.

This is a great illustration of how sportsmen maintain their image in mainstream society. Thanks for perpetuating that negative stereotype. Hunters across the country are worse off for you opening your mouth.

I'm agreeing with you Mike. Intentionally risky shots, gut shots, all bad in my book. Intentionally injuring an animal is sub-animal behavior. Animals kill and consume by any means necessary, they are animals afterall. Humans have the ability to rationalize and hopefully make better choices, although after reading some of these posts, I doubt.
 
To those of us who think gut-shooting a coyote because of their nature is a good thing...

We're not saying they shouldn't be dispatched. We're saying cruelty (intentional gut-shots) is just plain wrong. The ceaseless hunting to near extinction is selfish especially if it's just for our convenience. There's nothing sporting about any of this type of behavior.
 
Hunting a coyotes is not a sport for me it is a management tool. I didn't say near extinction I said near endangered different definitions. I see coyotes on a weekly basis I work in the rockie mountains way in the back country. They are over abundant and it would be nice to have them be a treat to see.
 
castingdonkey... Okay, you wrote "endangerment", not "extinction". My bad but isn't that splitting hairs? Also, you wrote that gut-shooting them is all the better so you don't have to deal with the carcass when they run off to die. That is unnecessarily cruel and humans are supposed to be better than this. Lastly, why is it you despise them so much but write that hunting them to near endangerment will limit their numbers such that it will be a treat to see one. Must something be so rare before you can put up with its natural behavior? I don't like to see animals killed either but I didn't create their predators to be the way they are. You'll have to take your argument up with someone with more authority than me.
 
Yes, someone did recommend gut-shooting coyotes so they run off and die slowly. But this isn't the first thread in which I've seen such cruel nonsense directed at coyotes.
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Absolutely. Coyotes proliferate and eventually become a nuisance...and often a dangerous one. I have no issues with thinning them out or keeping them moving by killing a few that are coming too close for comfort...but to deliberately cause prolonged suffering because they're simply being what they are is wrong. It's more than wrong. It's beneath contempt.
 
I have alot of coyote's around here, the dog keeps most away I guess. Every now and then one comes in to close for my goats or chickens. I've used a .22lr if that was what I had and a shot behind the ear worked pretty good. A .22 mag works also, i'm not one to just take any shot but I will say I have made a bad shot before and the other coyotes take care of the bad shot and leave your stock alone. I keep a .357 lever gun handy so thats whats used most.

I enjoy listening to them sing at nite so I really can't jump on the eradication bandwagon, if they are that big of a problem get a couple good dogs, I have a black lab that does well but pyrenees are GREAT for this purpose!!!! Donkeys are also very good livestock guards! If they come in to close I shoot them if I can.....thats a seldom occurance, I always figured something was wrong with the ones that came in so close.

If you take the appropriate measures stock losses are very minimal!!!! I don't love em' and I don't hate em', But i'd sure miss their songs!!!!
 
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