22 magnum for coyotes

[DM~]

Ruthless Killers? You've been watching too many Disney movies. They are a vital part of a healthy ecosystem, they just so happen to be competition for game you want to kill. Sounds like you need to become a better hunter. Just kill all of the predators off so we can have an abundance of prey animals so amateur hunters with no respect for nature can blast away. Great plan. Our ecosystem is about balance, not setting up an outdoor channel experience for everyone that steps intot he woods.

I've spent many years in the bush, around coyotes and wolves. If YOU really believe what you wrote, you REALLY DO need to spend more time out in nature, AND i mean out in the bush, not for a walk on some cutsey trail with a bunch of other citiots.

Living in the bush opens ones eyes to things that "others" just don't experience and most times they just don't get it! Obviously, you just don't get it!

DM

 

[HGUNHNTR]

^ Well by all means, please explain this to me. By the way, I grew up on a farm in rural Nebraska and spent nearly every waking hour I wasn't in school, in the woods. I know nature, and respect how it works. I also understand that humans, more often than not, disrupt the balance to swing the population in favor of prey animals, then demonize the increase in predation that they themselves caused. THat is pretty much what is happening in this thread, plus add a dash of unethically gut shooting "ruthless" predators that have the audacity to kill game and eat it.

 

[Mike1234567]

HGUNHNTER... There's really no use trying to debate this intelligently.

"Ignorance" can be educated.

"Willful ignorance" lasts forever.

 

[HGUNHNTR]

^Agreed. What it boils down to is justification for one's actions. If there is no logical reason, invent one.....willlful ignorance, you found it.

 

[DT Guy]

I just don't understand the 'coyotes are evil, so the rules of sport don't apply to them' thing.

Hell, a friend and I once had to clear out about 100 mice that had infested a friend's summer cabin and nested everywhere-we killed them with airguns, and STILL made sure we dispatched them humanely. Them being a mouse-or a coyote-doesn't stop ME being a human, and a hunter.

Larry

 

[DM~]

^ Well by all means, please explain this to me. By the way, I grew up on a farm in rural Nebraska and spent nearly every waking hour I wasn't in school, in the woods. I know nature, and respect how it works. I also understand that humans, more often than not, disrupt the balance to swing the population in favor of prey animals, then demonize the increase in predation that they themselves caused. THat is pretty much what is happening in this thread, plus add a dash of unethically gut shooting "ruthless" predators that have the audacity to kill game and eat it.

I grew up on a farm too, a cow pasture isn't the bush!

I ALSO spent 25 years "living" in the Alaskan bush, and saw for myself how nature works out in the bush.... AND how coyotes, wolves and other animals work in nature... I don't think you can lecture or teach me anything on THAT subject, even though you may "try"...

DM

 

[Mike1234567]

I grew up on a farm too, a cow pasture isn't the bush!

I ALSO spent 25 years "living" in the Alaskan bush, and saw for myself how nature works out in the bush.... AND how coyotes, wolves and other animals work in nature... I don't think you can lecture or teach me anything on THAT subject, even though you may "try"...

DM

Thank you, Mr. Knowitall.

 

[castingdonkey]

Barf....there is some almighty stench around these parts. I think it's some of the bunnie huggin wimps that hang on this site. Some of the people on here remind me of the dirty rats that hang out in Washington D.C..


My mice die in a trap or get poisoned but hell that can't be humane poison for rats and mice what a terrible thing.

Yah know yesterday I saw an ant on the side walk and thought you know someone might step on him. So I took the time to fence the area off to make sure that one of Gods creatures didn't get hurt. God forbid someone stepped on an ant and left it paralyzed. Then it would have to sit and wait for another good stomp to put him out.

 

[788Ham]

I live just between 2 fair sized cities, was originally farm country, still being farmed as I write this. The 'yotes out here are seriously taking over! The 2 cities have laws about "keeping the rural part of country in place", that means you'd best not think about shooting a 'yote if your kids or animals are attacked or bitten! Each municipality has parks, trails, open space, and again, the farmland, yet they will not allow Game and Fish to come in and remove the problems, why? "Because we need to live in harmony, share our great city with everyone/everything." Heifer Dust! There have been 3 incidents this year of the 'yotes biting children, killing dogs, nothing has been done to help the residents of these cities.The G&F said they've tried trapping, but have been unlucky. You can't set the traps in the middle of a shopping mall and expect to eradicate them! Castingdonkey, I don't condone gut shooting and letting them run off, but more stringent methods need be applied here!

 

[TexasPatriot.308]

I kill em with my 17hmr at 100 yards or more all the time, hogs too, if you ever get a chance to take one with the .17, cut him open and look at the internal damage, pretty massive for a 20 grain hunting tip. I use it all the time but my favorite is still the .22-250.

 

[Steel Talon]

Ruthless Killers? You've been watching too many Disney movies. They are a vital part of a healthy ecosystem, they just so happen to be competition for game you want to kill. Sounds like you need to become a better hunter. Just kill all of the predators off so we can have an abundance of prey animals so amateur hunters with no respect for nature can blast away. Great plan. Our ecosystem is about balance, not setting up an outdoor channel experience for everyone that steps intot he woods.

Wow simply wow....

 

[Mike1234567]

I don't recall reading any posts in this thread in which anyone stated that overpopulated or property-damaging or aggressive coyotes shouldn't be humanely dispatched. Why are we arguing that point??

RE: Rat killing; As stated earlier, we mostly use snap traps, which "usually" snap the neck (quick humane kill) or poison (horrible agonizing death). The problem with those little rodents is there are few "effective" ways to kill them so we do the best we can. If there were more humane effective/affordable methods to kill rats then most of us would use them. At least I hope we would.

For those of us who still believe in God; Are you punishing coyotes for the way God made them? Are you judging God's creatures?

For those of us who still believe in Karma; Will it be your turn next time? Will you be given the same mercy you've given other creatures?

 

[Sam1911]

Nope. Not getting into religion. That's a site rule.

Not too much point in continuing to argue and insult each other over who's opinions of the circle of life, man's inhumanity to animals, or the cruelty and evilness of predators doing what they're built to do are most correct.

The developing contention over who's Backwoods Bear Big Bushy Beard is biggest looked to be interesting, but ... naaah.

Done.