Mark_Mark
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It's your dedicated toilet gun?
To be fair, my gun room is next to the bathroom.Gives a whole new meaning to “backdrop”
Stay safe.
.22 magnum for personal defense
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doubleh
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A quick and very simple test is to set up a swinging steel gong and shoot it with each caliber in guns have have close to the same barrel length. There is definately an energy difference. I consider the 22 mag to be a nasty little beast in the noise department when fired from a handgun.
The first time I saw that picture I wondered if it was a glue gun missing it's electrical cord.
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unclenunzie
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Late last year I bought a 351C as an object of desire and potential light carry option. The 7 rounds of 22WMR seemed reasonable and I bought some ammo for it including gold dots. I've not carried it but I could see it as an option on an ankle, it's like a feather.
Pistolay
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I bought this 351PD in January and put simulated ivory grips from Boone Trading Company on it. I don't carry it today, but I won't rule it out for the future.
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JERRY
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That's nice but doesn't have anything to do with this.
Madcap_Magician
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I would like it if Ruger made their .22 WMR LCR a seven-shot like the S&W 351. The J-frame rimfire triggers are... not great, but the seventh round is. I've always wanted to get one or the other of these as a belly gun for deep concealment or when weight is extremely critical, but the poor trigger on the S&W and the missing seventh round on the Ruger has always ended up stopping me.
A quick and very simple test is to set up a swinging steel gong and shoot it with each caliber in guns have have close to the same barrel length. There is definately an energy difference. I consider the 22 mag to be a nasty little beast in the noise department when fired from a handgun.
The first time I saw that picture I wondered if it was a glue gun missing it's electrical cord.
I wish I could contribute more to the question but, I've only owned 1 .22mag; a SS, 5½" Ruger Single Six.
Nice gun and but more accurate with .22lr.
.22mag ammo was much more expensive than .22lr and it (the magnum) always seemed like it's "bark was much more powerful than its bite"
Admittedly, I never tested that theory.
Guess I just figured, if I was gonna spend $$ on defense ammo, it would be in a "defensive" caliber...
...but I never spent any time thinking about what that was.
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Forgive the miscommunication, was trying to state that I do not use 22mag as neither a ccw or on the side as I believe it to be an impotent round for self defense against people, at least out of a small pocket gun. I thought you asked the question if anyone did carry it in that configuration for that reason in the original post?
KevininPa
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I could never figure out why no one can make a nine shot 22 mag j frame style revolver now. High Standard had the nine shot Sentinel Mark series in the 80s. Never heard of one blowing up. And yet Ruger, S&W can't follow up on this in this century.
Coyote3855
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I carry a Kel Tec PMR 30 when working around my rural property, mostly for ground squirrels. I'm usually on the tractor and have ear pro. I have an NAA sometimes as a backup or when I really need to be discreet.
doubleh
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Way back shortly after the dinosaur extinction I bought a single six in 22LR, the only option available, and used to kill jackrabbits and prairedogs, both of which were very plentiful. Then the 22 mag hit the market and I bought a single six chambered for it for the same use. Much to my surprise the LR with hollow points would knock one over with any well placed shot while the magnum wouldn't. Prairiedogs would make it back into their hole and jackrabbits ran quite a way before falling over. I became seriously disgusted with a caliber that cost quite a bit more than 22LR and performd so poorly and after sometime traded the gun off. Later the gun rags were saying the first ammo came with jackets that were too thick and wouldn't expand. Several years later I bought a bolt action rifle and added a 3 x 9 power scope for long shots and it really did the job. Then Remington came out with the 20 caliber necked down cartridge. 5mm magnum if I remember right was it's name. I bought one and soon after the 22 mag went down the road. How does the 22 mag perform now on small game out of a handgun? I have no idea as I have never tried it. I own three different single action revolvers that have the mag cylinder and have never fired a shot with any of them and don't know that I ever will. LR does what I want to do.
22 Rim fire. Had my share of duds. Co-worker bought a pink auto loader for his wife. She had a dud, pointed it in the wrong direction and got lectured to at indoor range. That's after I showed him my wife's sp101 and how you just pull trigger again. Now she won't practice
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JERRY
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I didn't know I had to connect the dots lead people by hand and spoon feed anything. I asked specifically about the 22 magnum, no other caliber. Or do I have to say that as well in a post titled .22 magnum?
Please forgive the snark I'm not aware of the need to spell everything out for the lowest common denominator. However, I will remember that in the future for you specifically.
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When I first started as a cop, 1986 or so, I worked the far south end of our city. There was, nothing. Except dumped stolen cars. Meth labs. Meth lab dump sites and, a few mobile home parks. It could easily take 30 minutes for help to get to me.
I carried a 1911. 4 mags and, a Remington 11-87.
And this as back up. S&W model 650.
And, a box of 50 rounds in my pocket. If I ever got pinned down, I figure the bad guys would be amazed at how long I could keep shooting back at them.
I assume nobody wants to get shot, by anything. And that little thing sounds a lot more formidable than it may actually be.
I carried a 1911. 4 mags and, a Remington 11-87.
And this as back up. S&W model 650.
And, a box of 50 rounds in my pocket. If I ever got pinned down, I figure the bad guys would be amazed at how long I could keep shooting back at them.
I assume nobody wants to get shot, by anything. And that little thing sounds a lot more formidable than it may actually be.
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Bob529
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I don't personally use a .22 Mag for self defense but I do have a Keltec PMR30 that holds 30 rounds. I wouldn't hesitate to use it. I figure that if I have to defend myself and start spraying 30 rounds of .22 Mag in the direction of a bad guy, there's a pretty good chance that he will get hit a few times, and ..... it's intimidatingly loud! I also understand that as soon as I know that the threat is removed, I need to stop shooting.
Should I come across a .22Mag revolver, I may actually try one:
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Anything smaller than a 9mm or .380 just doesn't appeal to me as a defense gun....though I sometimes carry a .22 magnum when woods loafing...and both of my sons have rid the barn of a cpl of possums and raccoons with one as well. These were longer bbl'd guns; 5.5" bbl'd Single Sixes in their case and a Colt New Frontier 6" in mine.
I have arthritis in both hands/thumbs now at age 77, but still find the recoil of a 9mm tolerable, even from my every day carry: a Sig P365...it's a matter of getting enough practice in to become accustomed to the gun. YMMv, Rod
I have arthritis in both hands/thumbs now at age 77, but still find the recoil of a 9mm tolerable, even from my every day carry: a Sig P365...it's a matter of getting enough practice in to become accustomed to the gun. YMMv, Rod
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I have in the past, usually an naa with folding grip.
But why? An lcp conceals very easily, and 6 or 7 rounds of 380 quickly reloaded is so far superior.
Load it with xtp, 15.5 inches penetration with expansion.
And no mini will reach out as far as an lcp. Especially the lcps with sights like my 200 dollar lcp custom.
But why? An lcp conceals very easily, and 6 or 7 rounds of 380 quickly reloaded is so far superior.
Load it with xtp, 15.5 inches penetration with expansion.
And no mini will reach out as far as an lcp. Especially the lcps with sights like my 200 dollar lcp custom.
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The only .22 Mag I have that I would carry would be the NAA's I have. The 4 inch Black Widow I've been looking to get a holster for for years, but not sure what I want to get. The 1.5 inch convertible I dont have much interest in carrying because I found that the 22 Short NAA literally disappears in any pocket that I'd rather have that ease of carry and concealment over the power of .22 Mag.
Anything larger than the NAA's in .22 Mag is surpassed by .32 calibers in reliability and effect.
Anything larger than the NAA's in .22 Mag is surpassed by .32 calibers in reliability and effect.
mokin
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I have although I usually carry something bigger. I have a NAA Black Widow with a two inch barrel that rides very comfortably in a "Driving Holster" (cross draw style) from Desert Gunleather.
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It would be interesting to know the cylinder diameter of the High Standard vs. a true J-Frame cylinder diameter.
It's fairly easy to stuff 9 into something like a Ruger Single Nine which is a gun with no extractor star. But in a swing out cylinder double action gun, there has to be enough meat (strength) on the extractor star to punch out all the spent cartridges at once. I'm sure we've all experienced rimfires that don't eject as easily as centerfires.
