.22 Rimfire revolvers

[Remington1911]

maybe not 5x but 3x easily: the answer is a used ruger single six: built like a brick outhouse and slow single action shooting mean it can never be burned out. excellent ruger warranty service solves any problems. these things will last forever.

even a wrangler for just a few dollars more is stouter than a hrr. i have all three. your unborn grandchild will enjoy your rss as an adult. the wrangler is what give your kid for his first week long canoe trip into the wild. the roughrider is what you get when you cannot afford anything else that goes bang for a few years.

You can't do used to new, if you want to do that you must do used to used.

And I do not agree it is even 3x the gun....on a good day double. But we all have the hills we will die on, and mine is not ruger. Wonder how many got sent back before they got it right.

 

[wcwhitey]

I'm sorry but if someone is 1.5 miles away and still complaining about me shooting, Karen needs to get a life.
And complaining about a .22 at a mile and a half? Wow.
Maybe I'm just spoiled, but a day that someone is NOT shooting something in my area is a very odd day.
It is very common to have multiple home ranges being used simultaneously. And I mean everything from high powered rifles all the way down to .22 pistols. Haven't heard of a complaint in 26 years.

in defense of the neighbors it was loud, an acoustic anomaly of sorts. It was a situation unlike other sites. We fixed the problem. Turned out to be a very nice range. Just one of those things. Flat, flat and wooded would have been much different. This topography acted like a Woofer box in the trunk. I do get what your saying, first time we got a complaint our first instinct was like you described.

 

[Seedy Character]

You can't do used to new, if you want to do that you must do used to used.

And I do not agree it is even 3x the gun....on a good day double. But we all have the hills we will die on, and mine is not ruger. Wonder how many got sent back before they got it right.

Thankfully we have choices .

Have owned 3 Heritage. All 3 were cheap crap and sold off

Looked at the Wranglers. I think they are FUGLY, but a good, low cost better option than Heritage.

in defense of the neighbors it was loud, an acoustic anomaly of sorts. It was a situation unlike other sites. We fixed the problem. Turned out to be a very nice range. Just one of those things. Flat, flat and wooded would have been much different. This topography acted like a Woofer box in the trunk. I do get what your saying, first time we got a complaint our first instinct was like you described.

Bought an unmodified Old Model Single Six 3 screw on the used market. Then a new, stainless Single Six. Both have LR and Mag cylinders.

Of 10 Rugers, 0 have been sent back to Ruger, to a 'smith, or needed any repair.

To teach their own.

 

[ontarget]

Of 10 Rugers, 0 have been sent back to Ruger, to a 'smith, or needed any repair.

To teach their own.

50 percent of my Ruger SSs have needed repair. (I only have 2) I'm currently fighting a very tight chamber issue on one.
33 percent of my RRs have needed repair. (I have 6). 2 LR cylinders were very rough and caused difficult ejection. Both replaced promptly by the factory, no questions asked.

So yes, to each their own. And I like them all.

 

[Remington1911]

Thankfully we have choices .

Have owned 3 Heritage. All 3 were cheap crap and sold off

Looked at the Wranglers. I think they are FUGLY, but a good, low cost better option than Heritage.



Bought an unmodified Old Model Single Six 3 screw on the used market. Then a new, stainless Single Six. Both have LR and Mag cylinders.

Of 10 Rugers, 0 have been sent back to Ruger, to a 'smith, or needed any repair.

To teach their own.

My experience is 180 from that, I only have one heritage and it has been fantastic, pretty hard to screw up a 22 revolver......however leave it to Ruger to find a way, the only wrangler I have handled was out of time coming out of the glass cabinet at the LGS.

Now you can't judge all by a few examples, but it does line up with my past experiences with ruger. My P89 was so loose and so rattley it sounded like a box of marbles if you shook it side to side, and you could rack it with a snap of the wrist.....I was such a big idiot I bought the thing new, fresh out of the box. In the mid 80's we did not have the resources we do now, so I just kind of lived with it after I found out "they are all like that". Guy at the shop even said want something better you need to spend more money. And to prove that I am even a bigger idiot I am still planning on buying that 77/357. No one to blame but myself if it turns out to be a POS.

 

[Remington1911]

Likely because of this thread, yesterday I grab that "cheap crap" along with a 22mag lever (only lever 22 I have is a wmr) and went out back with a cheap crap holster on and a cheap crap revolver, a pretty expensive lever and two pockets full of ammo and off I go. From my belt loop is hanging a timer, push the button and somewhere between 3-7 sec it will beep. Now I am ready to play John Wayne.

It is just amazing how quickly 100 rounds go at the pace of, beep.....bang.....ding....how quick was that. Then we went to beep.....bang, bang.....how quick was that double. Beep ding.....ding...ding, one double and one on another target......where did all that ammo go.

The sky was a perfect blue, during reloading.....something that happens often, I could hear the creek running, a ratt-a-tat-tat, of a wood pecker telling me he is way faster then I will ever dream to be. Reloaded my six and away I go. I learned that 100 does not go into 6 real well, so for the last couple you try clint eastwood, and half cock and spin the cyl....nope even with 3 in I end up on an empty chamber, I would have died against that Ramon guy in fist full of dollars.

Such a good time, and ain't that why we do this.

 

[ontarget]

Got my 1977 SS chambers reamed this evening. (See thread in gunsmithing sub if you're interested in the full story).
Went out to my range and finally got to shoot it like it should be shot!
What a great evening.
RIMFIRE REVOLVERS RULE!
Yes I'm excited.

 

[chicharrones]

Something from 1982 fell into my possession today. Damn the luck.

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[NIGHTLORD40K]

Something from 1982 fell into my possession today. Damn the luck.

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Beautiful!

 

[3Crows]

My stainless Single Six convertible, 5.5 inch barrel.



3C

 

[aaaaa]

I don't have a .22, but there is a beautiful H&R top-break 9-shot .22 LR sitting at the LGS for $550 on consignment. I don't know. Maybe I should take it home one of these days.

 

[chicharrones]

I don't have a .22, but there is a beautiful H&R top-break 9-shot .22 LR sitting at the LGS for $550 on consignment. I don't know. Maybe I should take it home one of these days.

I have a 999 Sportsman. It’s a sweet handling old school revolver with an average but workable trigger. The adjustable sights and break open ejection are great features.

These guns are probably worth that kind of money these days if in excellent condition.

 

[CajunBass]

At one time I had about a half dozen 22 handguns in the safe...or anywhere else I could find to put them. And another half dozen or so 22 rifles. Well, over time I sold most of them off. I sort of figured it was silly when I found myself looking into the safe trying to figure out which rifle I wanted to take hunting that day. That was when I lived out in the woods "up nawth."

Now I'm a city dweller again, and can't just walk out back and shoot, so 22's get little use here. Still I had my wife's Ruger Single-Six 50th anniversary, and I picked up a Heritage Rough Rider that I've never fired.

Her Ruger



My HRR



Then a week or so ago, the guys at the gun shop saw me coming, and put this one out where I'd trip over it. A 1955, Colt, Official Police with a 4" barrel, in 22 LR. I'd never seen a 22 OP with a 4" barrel I don't think. So...use a 22 or not much anymore it came home with me.



Haven't shot it yet, but hope to this weekend.

And just because I can, I got my wife her 20th anniversary present a couple of days ago. A Walther PPK, in 22 LR. It's one of the "cheap" ones, but she likes it so far. If we get to the range tomorrow, I'm sure it will go along.



Oh...wait. That's four. That's heading back toward a dozen isn't it?

 

[P5 Guy]

S&W 17 (no dash)

 

[AzShooter1]

Looked at the Wrangler but this HRR just called out my name. For under $100 OTD including 2 boxes of CCI Quiet I couldn't resist.

It's a fine shooter and dead on at 15 yards. I've had no troubles with it and use it to fire rounds that didn't go bang in my 617 Smith.

 

[Rodfac]

Here's my Colt New Frontier with both cylinders. At present, Fed Auto-Match is the best & cheapest ammo that's capable of 2" or better groups at 25 yds. Magnum CCI rounds are not quite as accurate at the same distance; ~3" to date. With a 6" bbl. it's not as easily carried as say Ruger's SS with a 4-5/8" tube, but still makes up into a lot of fun and a very pretty handgun. Second pic of the gun w/a holster I made up for it. Best Regards, Rod

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[AzShooter1]

Here's my Colt New Frontier with both cylinders.

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Nice revolver and great looking holster.

 

[jstert]

You can't do used to new, if you want to do that you must do used to used.

gee, i never heard of such a rule, and from the looks of the many fine pieces illustrated here, most folks do compare getting used to new firearms in terms of price, availability, budget, quality.

same with tools, cars, houses...

 

[bannockburn]

Rodfac

The Colt New Frontier .22 with a 4 5/8th" barrel was one of my favorite SA rimfire revolvers. I just loved that color case hardened frame with the blued barrel, cylinder, and grip frame.

 

[JTHunter]

The only .22 revolver I have is a Ruger Single Six with the spare Magnum cylinder. I don't get to shoot nearly as much as I would like to but I do like the accuracy the 6" barrel gives me.

 

[Remington1911]

gee, i never heard of such a rule, and from the looks of the many fine pieces illustrated here, most folks do compare getting used to new firearms in terms of price, availability, budget, quality.

same with tools, cars, houses...

I do not. If something is current production new generally has a very different price over used. Now things in the car, house world have gone sideways for some very well known reasons.

My point is looking at a used item is going to be more inexpensive over a new like item. I hate to do this comparison, but it is all I have off the top of my head. Look at a new corvette and then look at one with 20k miles that just came off lease, what one is going to be cheaper. Like to like items the used version is always cheaper. Now (and I hate to use this comparison but it is all I have at the moment and not going to put much more thought into this) Look at that new corvette next to a used 812GTS. The used 812 is going to be more...it was more to start with...lots more. You can look at the heritage and the ruger like the Chevy and Ferrari. Both fantastic cars, but they are in just such different classes.

So when we swing back to these guns, Heritage is making a darn good chevy, and ruger is making a darn good ferrari, to the shock of not one single person on the planet but a few with very thick skulls there are a great many more chevys sold over the ferrari. Ferrari sits down and things....you know, perhaps if we made something a bit cheaper, perhaps we can catch some of the market that chevy is getting, lets build the Roma. Yea it is still more, but it says Ferrari on the side and people will buy it just because of that.

Now you are sitting there provided you read all this and thinking this idiot (me) is talking about the difference in $100 and $700 guns, to cars costing over $500,000 with the most inexpensive and ~ $80k for the cheap version. What you MIGHT be forgetting is $100k to these people is like $5 to other people.

Now this takes into account a "normal" time and that ain't now....in the transportation area or the gun area. When I can walk into a motorcycle dealer and see a KLR with 55000 THOUSAND on the clock and see a hang tag for $7500 on it, and a new KLR has a MSRP of right at $7k, something is sideways....thing is you just can't find a new KLR, inventory is just not there....and that changes the price on all used.....things....no matter what they are.

Is this the new "normal"....I am pretty sure in saying there are very few on the planet that think things are going the right way.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

I do not. If something is current production new generally has a very different price over used. Now things in the car, house world have gone sideways for some very well known reasons.

My point is looking at a used item is going to be more inexpensive over a new like item. I hate to do this comparison, but it is all I have off the top of my head. Look at a new corvette and then look at one with 20k miles that just came off lease, what one is going to be cheaper. Like to like items the used version is always cheaper. Now (and I hate to use this comparison but it is all I have at the moment and not going to put much more thought into this) Look at that new corvette next to a used 812GTS. The used 812 is going to be more...it was more to start with...lots more. You can look at the heritage and the ruger like the Chevy and Ferrari. Both fantastic cars, but they are in just such different classes.

So when we swing back to these guns, Heritage is making a darn good chevy, and ruger is making a darn good ferrari, to the shock of not one single person on the planet but a few with very thick skulls there are a great many more chevys sold over the ferrari. Ferrari sits down and things....you know, perhaps if we made something a bit cheaper, perhaps we can catch some of the market that chevy is getting, lets build the Roma. Yea it is still more, but it says Ferrari on the side and people will buy it just because of that.

Now you are sitting there provided you read all this and thinking this idiot (me) is talking about the difference in $100 and $700 guns, to cars costing over $500,000 with the most inexpensive and ~ $80k for the cheap version. What you MIGHT be forgetting is $100k to these people is like $5 to other people.

Now this takes into account a "normal" time and that ain't now....in the transportation area or the gun area. When I can walk into a motorcycle dealer and see a KLR with 55000 THOUSAND on the clock and see a hang tag for $7500 on it, and a new KLR has a MSRP of right at $7k, something is sideways....thing is you just can't find a new KLR, inventory is just not there....and that changes the price on all used.....things....no matter what they are.

Is this the new "normal"....I am pretty sure in saying there are very few on the planet that think things are going the right way.

Let me play Devil's Advocate for a moment: In this brave new world, it is not just a matter of used vs. new or classic vs. modern. A JM barreled Marlin 336 is fetching an unreasonably high price - has been for three years now at least - while a new Marlin is almost as much or more, but only marginally more. Is the "classic" better? Not really or, if so, only to a certain market wedge but, it is getting that price based on limited availability. We know how many Corvettes Chevy built in 2018; we don't know how many they will build in 2023. That encourages speculation.

An old friend who owned a gun store many years ago told me, "Firearms speculation is a risky business." He was right, it is risky. It's also rewarding. So, bottom line, can we compare used to new? Sure. But it's speculative. Can we compare old used to new used? Absolutely, and that's sometimes the more safe comparison but, it's still speculative. We know the bugs and problems of 2019 Charter Arms revolvers; we don't know what will be right or wrong, good or bad, with 2023 Charter Arms revolvers. Which is the best buy depends on how risk averse a buyer is. Or, how uncaring they are about every difference except price.

NB: I didn't say value or cost, I said price. There are significant differences inferred by that word use.

 

[chicharrones]

Ruger and Ferrari? Nah, a Korth might be a Ferrari but never a Ruger, no matter how much we complain about pricing.

Ruger revolvers today aren’t much different than Ruger revolvers in the past. It’s just that the inexpensive entry level brands have changed. Rohm/RG from the past. Heritage and Charter Arms today.

 

[DTL]

LGS finally got a S&W 617-6 in with the 4" barrel, the 6"er has been there for a while tempting me, but this was a nice surprise leaving the range today. Now wait for NJ permit burden to work through.

 

[Remington1911]

Ruger and Ferrari? Nah, a Korth might be a Ferrari but never a Ruger, no matter how much we complain about pricing.

Ruger revolvers today aren’t much different than Ruger revolvers in the past. It’s just that the inexpensive entry level brands have changed. Rohm/RG from the past. Heritage and Charter Arms today.

I was shooting off the top of my head, personally I think I would put Ruger on par with a TaTa, and that is well below Kia.