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.22 Rimfire - Short - Long - Long Rifle

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Tomcat47, May 13, 2013.

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  1. Tomcat47

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    Has your opinion of these rounds changed since the availability became an issue?

    Did you find uses for any of them that you would not even have considered before, if LR would have been available?

    There could be more questions concerning these 3 rounds but I just threw a couple up there. I have always shot all 3 on a regular basis. I have 'still' hunted squirrels with 22 short a lot in my life with scoped rifle, usually my 39A. Shorts and patience in a good day equals a full creel without moving a whole lot and no damaged meat! :cool:

    I have always used shorts to dispatch small rodents and snakes and moved on up to Long and Long rifle for different things. The 39A had a lot to do with this seeing that it would shoot all 3.

    The ammo shortage had me buying what was available in the store at the time. Short and Long were available long after all the LR was gone when it started, so I got it too... I had always shot it so why not? it even surprised me that people left it on shelf when LR was not available, but it is mostly a lever gun ability to use all 3.

    So there, your input!
     
  2. Chris-bob

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    I too have a 39A, as well as several bolt actions that take S,L, and LR. I buy it all whenever I can.
     
  3. spanishjames

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    Shorts and longs are great in revolvers as well.
     
  4. shiftyer1

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    I've not used shorts much, grew up using only mini mags until age 15 or so for everything.

    Grandpa mentioned longs and shorts but all he bought was mini mags....I have revolvers and one rifle that will cycle real shorts so i'd buy some if I found some.

    I have a pellet rifle that probably has the same power of a short......I don't have a problem finding ammo for it:)
     
  5. CZguy

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    I use shorts for squirrel hunting from time to time. But I haven't seen a .22 long since the 1960s.
     
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    I only have one .22 firearm, a Ruger Mk III standard semiautomatic pistol, which requires .22 long rifle...good thing a I bought a few bricks before the mass buyout happened last year
     
  7. vkeith

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    I haven't seen Longs for sale around here in over 30 years. Haven't bought any shorts in quite a while either, as I now use .22 Super Colibris for quiet critter dispatching. Everything else I shoot is .22 LR standard or high velocity. I have enough of it that the shortage hasn't affected me, yet.
     
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  8. Bruno2

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    They are not very common at the box stores. However, a decent LGS has them in stock usually.
     
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    My Buckmark Camper pistol will only shoot long rifle. My Winchester 190 rifles will shoot both long and long rifle. My Super Single Six will shoot everything from Short to Magnum.

    But, besides some Mags for the Single Six, I've only ever bought long rifle; before the panic, during the panic, and (most likely) after the panic. Nothing has changed for me yet. I doubt anything will.
     
  11. 4tsmith

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    Funny you should mention this...
    Around Thanksgiving I scored a couple of little C&R 22 revolvers and after shooting them with Aguilla colibri/super colibr,I found myself less than impressed.Road trip,research time!

    At an LGS we found CCI low velocity CB shorts and longs (29grn at 710fps)Each gun had It's favorite but both shot much better with extra weight and velocity,but still soft enough not to hurt the guns and still pretty quiet.

    At the time this LGS was loaded to the rafters and the prices were fair,so it was sample time.This looked like a good time to solve the quiet 22 but no bucks for a silencer thing.
    ( sample guns,K22 S&W,Remington 34,Mossberg 46b,Rossi 62 pump)

    CCI-Quiet 22lr(710fps/40grn.)Air gun quiet,surprising accuracy to 20 yards.
    CCI-22 short(27grn plated HP/1105fps) sub sonic in revolver and rifles over 19 inch barrels,laser accurate thumper past 40 yards.

    Remington-22 GB short(plated 29 grn solid/1095fps)Quiet hard hitter.

    Remington-22lr sub sonic(38grn HP/1095fps)Accurate,quiet,hard hitter.

    Remington-CBee22lr(33grn lead truncated HP/740fps)This really surprised me,shot a squirrel at about 15+ yards and he flipped like he had been hit with a death ray...and surprise..surprise,the bullet actually expanded a little,but stayed under the opposite shoulder.
    Have to confess to having more fun than allowed by law testing and I think maybe I understand why my dad and uncles always seemed to have a box of 22 shorts laying around.Now if some of them were still around to share the moment with....
     
  12. 76shuvlinoff

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    I have a couple 39As, a Marlin 60, a Ted Williams single shot lever action from the 70s (my first real "gun"), an armscor m16 clone stashed out in the barn for close critter work and a .22 conversion for my 1911.
    About the only one I run shorts in is the single shot lever. We get bunnies like rats and sometimes you just gotta thin em out. A well placed short will get it done.
     
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    I have a Winchester 1906 that will take all three, and almost exclusively shoot shorts through it...

    Love that little gun...
     
  14. Carl N. Brown

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    Back in the 1950s there was a big price difference between short, long and long rifle. Shorts were real inexpensive compared to long rifle, and long was kept in production for the few guns that were .22 long only.

    When dad and I went to the mountain to visit relatives, every one had a .22 bolt action behind the door, and often used .22 Short for edible game and .22 long rifle for predators around the farm. Some had their rifle's POA down pat and POI for S, L, LR committed to memory.

    Marlin took a big risk introducing the Model 99 (basis of the Model 60) in 1959 as a .22 long rifle only. The big selling point in my childhood was "S, L, LR" on the barrel.

    Since then, economy of scale has made .22 LR more economical. Except when there is a gross shortage like the past 5 months.
     
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    I used to buy shorts and CB/BB caps quite a bit for backyard shooting in the city limits (at the time, mine was the only home on my street, but there were a couple of others within walking distance.) Shot 'em out of a single-shot rifle (Stevens M89) and out of a Taurus M94 revolver.

    I still have a couple of boxes of them, and might get to using them again. I don't have the Taurus anymore, but I do have a Heritage Rough Rider they might be fun putting through, as well as the rifle. I live in a more-populated area now, though, compared to where I was when I bought them, which was around 1991.
     
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    in the mid-1960's I would buy whatever Woolworths or the local general store had on hand...sometimes that meant Shorts or Longs.
    The only 'Longs' I've seen lately were CCI 'CB Long', right next to the CCI 'CB Short'. I keep a few boxes of each around.
    The only 'Shorts' I shoot now are some I keep on hand for an Astra 2000. Although 11 of my rifles (lever, bolt, pump, & single shot) and 7 of my revolvers handle Short, Long, Long Rifle, CB Short, CB Long, Colibri, and Super Colibri.
    I still have many thousands of .22LR rounds stocked. I've no need to look for anything right now.
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    .22WMR, I know it was not an option, but I've been stock-piling it for several years before I even had my 597 WMR. Between the (2) options, definitely the LR for semi-auto rifles.
     
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    I have a buckmark chambered in 22lr that will cycle shorts. I also have a model 1890 winchester that will only shoot shorts.
     
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    I sometimes shoot shorts out of an old long barrell mossberg bolt action that is tube feed from under the barrel. It holds an insane number of short rounds and seems like it never runs out. I have never compared if the accuracy suffers with a short. I just shoot this at short range.
     
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    For those of you who are able to buy .22 longs (before the crash) where were you finding them? What brands? How about some pictures.
     
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    CCI makes longs. Many places don't stock them. They are more expensive.

    I like standard velocity LR over longs. I don't know what the benefit to longs are, unless your rifle requires longs as is the case with some older rifles. Longs may be quieter?
     
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    I used to buy CCI CB Longs to shoot in my .22 LR Contender carbine when quiet shooting in the backyard was the aim (like on Sunday morning when the rest of the family was asleep). Since then, I have always kept a case on hand. I like the CCI CB Longs because they are both sub-sonic and have the same case length as a Long Rifle. I have always been concerned about chamber erosion from shooting the shorter cases in the LR chamber because it can cause sticky extraction if the longer case expands into the eroded area. The CCI ammo eliminates that concern.
     
  23. 22-rimfire

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    I buy them all. As a kid, I shot shorts and longs a lot. At that time, shorts were priced about a nickle less than long rifles. When I got a little older, I would buy long rifles on sale at $0.50/box or $5.00/brick.

    Never really shot shorts or longs much after that. My first 22 rifle was a semi-auto and it would not feed shorts or longs.

    I shoot shorts or CB Shorts now mostly for their low noise level.
     
  24. Tomcat47

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    A Thread to Enjoy!

    I am enjoying the response to this thread..... :cool:

    Today's score at LGS in pic below. 1 box 100 CCI 22 Long 29 gr 710 FPS and 150 rounds of CCI Std 40 gr 1070 FPS

    Hopefully getting Stingers in soon he said. He has good stock on the above for sure.. I guess he had around 300 boxes of the Long and maybe 400 boxes of LR

    I will go by again Friday to get my cut... :)

    I shoot shorts out of Taurus 9 shot revolver all the time as well.. 6" barrel is very accurate with the shorts generally plinking around 25 yards.

    I do enjoy the squirrel hunting with them. Im going to play with longs shortly when the grand kids come over in a couple weeks... :D
     

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