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.223 Remington Powders in Decending Order

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by cliffy, Sep 9, 2008.

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  1. cliffy

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    Alliant Reloder 10x; Ramshot X-Terminator; Hodgdon H335; whatever works. These are my findings, so chide me or offer some suggestions, I may have not tried already. Always use small rifle magnum primers in .223 heavy loads, or suffer the "duh" why'd I pierce a primer and foul my bolt's interior. Alliant 10x with MAGTECH 7 1/2 primers never fail to produce tight groups with maximum fps results. cliffy
     
  2. lgbloader

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    Varget, H335, IMR 4895, BLC(2).
     
  3. Crazy Fingers

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    I got me 8 pounds of Winchester 748 to load .223 rounds with. Not for accuracy, though. I hope it works well because I have a lot of it.
     
  4. James Thomson

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    Actually 748 is one of the best powders out there!
     
  5. cbm1948

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    RL-15, I use this in bolt and single shot rifles
    BLC-2 AR type
    WW 748 AR type

    Both BLC-2 and 748 meter well in my Dillon 550
     
  6. neal7250

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    I use H-335 exclusivly. Works very well in Dillon powder measures.
     
  7. jmorris

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    I don’t like extruded powders for 223, too many problems with the powder bridging. My favorites are 748, Ramshot TAC and X-term.
     
  8. elChupacabra!

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    I'd probably say at the top of the list (for me - 20" 1/8 twist SS barrel, AR)

    Varget
    H335

    Middle -

    IMR 3031

    Bottom -
    RL-15
    IMR 4198 (given 3 lbs, tried to get SOMETHING to work, but it just won't cycle the action reliably)

    I was suprised by how poorly RL15 worked in my rifle, but I got generally terrible accuracy. Varget and H335 are both superior powders for me, depending on what bullet weight I'm going for.
     
  9. Galil5.56

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    All tops for me:

    H335
    WW748
    AA2460
     
  10. Bowfishrp

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    H335 and BCL-2 are the best in my rifles.
    Can use Varget but my 308 likes it more!
     
  11. ADKWOODSMAN

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    My .223's like:
    WW748
    H335

    No favorite order.
     
  12. tbtrout

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    My Encore likes IMR 4064. Have not shot the Bushmaster yet to know its favorite.
     
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    All but 2 or 3 of the guys I shoot HP with use w784.
     
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    1) BLC2/Win748 (essentially the same)
    2) Reloader 15, particularily with 60gr and heavier loads.
    3) H335 and TAC (very, very simular)
    4) H4198/IMR4198
    least favorite IMR3031, Varget; neither can get enough in case to develope decent velocities. Neither of the two lot#'s of Varget came anywhere near close to claimed velocity with "packed, crammed and compressed" powder charges.
     
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    For target shooting loads these 3 have returned very consistent results with the best accuracy in my current .223s:

    Benchmark - for 55 and 69 grain
    H322 - for 69 grains
    H335 - 52 and 55 grains

    Varget has performed pretty well for me but does not meter well in my powder measures.
    Win 748 - used a lot of it in the past mainly with 52 grain match bullets.

    VV N133 - has shown very promising results first time out in a TC Contender Super 14 and a 20" barrel 700LTR. May eventually make it up to the top 3 if the trend of great accuracy continues!
     
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    i cant list ten as ive only used a few, but from my best to worst from an accuracy standpoint id have to say:

    1. h322
    2. varget
    3. h335

    i dont really have a 223 target rifle but my best groups have definitly been with h322.

    my bushmaster is a pretty standard 16" rifle, and is touted as a heavy barreled model, but weighs only about 6 lbs. the included pic is with 322. other powders will not group quite as well.

    Picture.jpg
     
  17. cliffy

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    10x ?

    No one actually mentioned Alliant Reloder 10x. Has no one actually tried this, my favorite powder? Has anyone experienced problems with this relatively new powder? I find it a super-performer in .223 Remington applications. cliffy
     
  18. SteveW-II

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    > Alliant 10x with MAGTECH 7 1/2 primers never fail to produce tight groups with maximum fps results

    Cliffy, what RL-10 charge are you using, for what bullet ? I have been trying to find a RL-10 load that will work well with the Hornady 55gr FMJ-BT bullet in an 16" AR. I am at 22.5 gr in Federal brass and Rem SR primers and I keep getting primers falling out..
     
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    Awesome thread. I use win 748, but the dillon powder dispenser seems to get a few .3 grains high. I hear 2230 is good, probably only because it's ball. I was having bridging problems with 4064 when loading 22-250, so I get the feeling you need to be pretty careful when using an auto powder dispenser with extruded.
     
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    cliffy, what are you launching these loads from?
     
  21. cliffy

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    10x Powder in AR-15s

    Steve, I would add .2 grain of 10x up to 80 degrees ambient temperature. Over that temperature, your load seems sound. Try CCI primers, because primers should not back-out until your primer pockets are worn-out, or your loads are too light. My son specifies that I load 22.7 grains with 55 grain Hornady FMJs with CCI 400 primers for his AR-15. Since I don't own an AR-type rifle, I load 24.4 grains of 10x behind a 55 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip using MAGTECH 7 1/2 primers for my Ruger Model 77 Mark II Sporter. These are my standard, if maximum load below 80 degrees Fahrenheit, .223 fare. cliffy
     
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    For 69grn. bullets and up, I like RL15 (1.5" groups at 300 yards in my competition rifle.) I've shot some good groups with Ramshot TAC, too.

    For lighter bullets, I like Benchmark, H332, and BLC-2, no particular order. I've been told that you can get good groups with Varget and Hornady 55grn. FMJ-BTs, and intend to try that out shortly.

    Never tried Reloader 10X.

    - Chris
     
  23. jhansman

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    H322 in my bolt gun is just excellent. For semiauto, H335.
     
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    By the way, in terms of primers, I have used CCI 400 (Standard SR) primers for all of my reloading life (which includes a lot of 5.56x45mm/.225 Rem.) and I have never experienced a pierced primer...

    This was all in M193 spec loads and some other 55gr bullets loaded to 3200/3300fps (depending on barrel length)...

    And this was mostly using H335/AA2230C/W748/WC-846 Ball powders, too.

    For what it's worth...

    Forrest
     
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    I use AA 2230
     
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