22lr plinkster query

[Big_E]

I was under the impression that rimfire guns were exempt from the "high cap" magazine ban in California..?

Sadly no. Rimfires are allowed to have all the evil features (Pistol grip, folding or adjustable stock, foregrips etc... but no "High Capacity" magazines.

At first I wanted to change my 10/22 into a target model, but then I realized I want to keep it in its original form (I added sling studs to the stock though) because it was my first gun B-day present when I was little and I love it. So it has sentimental value.

This is why I want to buy another and trick it out. However, I bought a Savage .17 HMR for tackdriving purposes but only downside is ammo cost.

Go with the 10/22 if you want higher capacity magazines, it is still a great plinker if you leave it stock. But I would also check out a Remington 752 or whatever its called.

 

[rangerruck]

What were your parameters, that lead you to these two? Becuase i would choose neither; the 702 is a copy of the marlin semi autos, mod 60 , 70,70 papoose, 75, 75c, 99, 99m1, 99m2, 989, 795, 7000 etc. Go to the source to get the best. the above are still currently made, while the rest are gunshop/pawnshop find; 60, 795, papoose, 7000.
ruger is now using too many plastic parts for my likeing, plus they are 200 bucks new. plus they are out of the box- generally not that accurate, terrible triggers, and will have a load of fte's, and ftf's. You usually spend another 100 to 150 bucks, just for a few internal new parts, and a trigger job.

And still an out of the box marlin will shoot rings around it.
now then, except for the tube feeds, there are no hi cap mags for a marlin, that is, over 15 rounds. tube feeds made prior to 89' , will hold 17 or 18 rounds in the tube.
if you want a decent mag fed rifle, with decent sights, as in fully adjustable rear site, for windage and elevation, and still get a hi cap mag,
get a remmy 597.

 

[Big_E]

The Remington 597 does have 30 round magazines made by Remington available. There were some complaints on Midway but the magazines seem good enough for plinking.

Gah! Now I am thinking about getting one! If I am going to save my money I need to avoid THR.

 

[rangerruck]

to get the mags to work right, is just a matter of buying the latest generation mags, then uninstalling, and re installing the bolt carrier guide rods; they come too tight from the factory. So you just put them back in, fingertight, and just enough to close back up the back cover part, they don't need to go in, any farther. this will stop them from ' bolt bind' which was the origional problem in the first place.

 

[ArmedBear]

Sadly no. Rimfires are allowed to have all the evil features (Pistol grip, folding or adjustable stock, foregrips etc... but no "High Capacity" magazines.

That's not entirely true.

Rimfire tubular magazines are exempt.

If you want more than ten shots, get a tube-fed Marlin.

 

[ArmedBear]

the Ruger 10/22 didn't get to the position it's in in the marketplace by being either a poor firearm or delivering a poor cost/value factor.

No. It got to Number Two because people like to modify it. Number One in the marketplace is the Marlin 60, with more than twice as many sold than 10/22s (11 million and counting vs. 5 million and counting). IMO Marlin's better sales numbers are well-deserved, at least when one compares the guns as they come from the factory.

Furthermore, Ruger has cheapened it several times since the original version, while raising the price. The things REALLY don't deserve a good reputation in their modern form.

I've also found that many 10/22 owners with stock guns just have lower standards. FTEs, the occasional bad magazine, poor accuracy, etc. just don't bug them much, since they have low expectations of their .22s.

IME my 10/22 was no better nor worse than countless others. I just have a lower threshold of frustration than the people who don't mind dinking with their guns while I'm plinking with mine.

Now my Mark II Target was a good gun from the box, and even better after all the critical internals were replaced and the rest of it 'smithed and deburred. But I no longer own, or want, and can't recommend a 10/22.

Want a good 10/22-like gun? Just buy a MagnumLite or Volquartsen, save money in the long run, and get a better rifle start to finish.

 

[Big_E]

Rimfire tubular magazines are exempt.

Well of course I meant detachable magazines.

Yes the Marlin 60's are great 22's but if you don't want to fiddle with feeding a tube from the front and just want to drop a mag then slap another one in quickly then the 10/22 is a great choice.

 

[Hagen442]

The Colt / Umarex M4 Carbine .22 Tactical Rimfire AR-15.
Very Accurate and a Blast with a 30 Round Mag.

 

[CajunBass]

Of the two you mentioned, the 10/22 hands down.

I've got five. They all work just fine.

Of course I've got "lower standards."

 

[cleetus03]

delete

 

[gunsandreligion]

get a tactical innovations high cap for the 10/22 if you want a good mag otherwise go butler creek.

 

[BigNYMini]

+1 Marlin 60.

 

[Ditch-Tiger]

"will have a load of fte's, and ftf's."

Really? Is that a fact? And how many have you owned or sold exactly?

You guys ranting about the Ruger's are out of control! Is it that hard to fathom that "building" a gun is fun? And how do you figure that they are "junk" out of the box? My stock 10/22 will shoot minute of squirrel face with bulk ammo all day long.
I'm not dissing the Marlin, Savages, Mossbergs or any others by any means, they all have their places, but any gun that has spawned entire companys on accesories alone must be doing somthing right.
To say that anyone who owns a 10/22 has low expectation and low standards is a pretty bold statment. I can assure you that i do not! i can also assure you that all 3 of my 10/22's have had no upgrades to their extractors and only 1 has had an upgrade to its fire control group and they all work wonderfully! hardly ever do i get a FTF/FTE.
I thought this was "The High Road"? To insult 5 million 10/22 owners by telling us we have low standards does not really represent our website, does it?

 

[AWorthyOpponent]

So, maybe I'm the only one...but I'm waiting for the M&P15-22. Its a new AR style rifle chambered in .22LR made by S&W that costs less than $500 MSRP. Looks Awesome!!

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...atalogId=10001&content=751501&sectionId=10002

 

[Ditch-Tiger]

The S&W AR-22 does look interesting, but check out the Colt AR-22 (made by Walther)
The Colt has a threaded barrel and an actual metal buttstock extention tube so if you wanted to swap them out to somthing else you could unlike the S&W that does not have a threaded barrel and whos extention tube is plastic thats molded right into the reciever.
I believe it's only $120. more.
Its saftey is also kind of neat, as you have to flip to the "full auto" possition for it to fire.

 

[scytale_]

Had some misfeeds on my kids Plinksters. However my most recent 10/22 was a jamming machine though. This is the third one I have owned and the newest. It is not as reliable as the rifles from 20 years ago.

 

[HAZMATT]

You guys win

After doing some more research, I will likely go with a marlin 60 as my first rifle (I just purchased a baretta U22).

 

[CZguy]

Let us know how you like it when you get it.

 

[ArmedBear]

FYI Cabela's has a sale on the 795 right now (Marlin 60 with a detachable mag, very similar in size, weight and appearance to the Plinkster).

They're going for 100 bucks.

 

[mp5a3]

Get a Marlin 60 or 795 instead..

 

[oneounceload]

Having owned 10/22's I would vote for a Marlin model 60 - longer barrel, MUCH better accuracy out of the box, IMO, and cost is about the same. Tube mag holds 14

 

[30mag]

+1 for Marlin 60.
I got some tech sights on mine. I like them.

 

[Raw_Shark]

I bought the 702 Plinkster for my daughter a few weeks ago. It's a great little rifle and we've had lots of fun so far, but if I could do it over again I'd get the 10/22 because there is almost no aftermarket for the Plinkster. Spend a little extra and get the Ruger.

 

[nody]

Have to agree with armed bear. 10/22 trigger pull, like ALL Rugers, sucks. That leads to lots of blazing and not much hitting the target.

Get a decent bolt action, like the CZ452.

I had an old Western Field (Monkey Wards Mossberg) bolt that was deadly accurate and got far more joy nailing distant targets at insane ranges than I ever did with the 10/22 or even my Browning Semi-Auto, which looks cool but again has a weak trigger.

Autos are for people who want to make noise, and if you want to just make noise, buy a string of fire crackers; they're cheaper and more entertaining.

Remember that stupid "crank" they sold that clamped to the 10/22 trigger guard and made it a "gatling gun". How retarded!