22LR Revolver choices

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I'm not sure about the paperwork and all that stuff it probably depends where you live.

Sounds like you're in a similar position as I was. I narrowed it down to an old 4" model 18 or a 4" 617. I really liked the wood and the bluing. on the 18 (Pretty much the same as the model 17 you're looking at I think, except for the shorter barrel.)

I ended up getting both and put some nice wood grips on the 617 that fit me a well. I am enjoying both guns now but if I had to do it all over again I may have saved some $$ and just got the model 18.

Thanks guys!

Greg, I completely forgot about the option to change to wood grips. If they had the 6 inch version of the 617 in stock, I might go that direction and change them out, but it's good to hear you're happy with the Model 18. I can't explain why, but there's just something appealing about the full underlug. All things considered, sounds like I'd be happy with the 17 regardless.

It's reassuring to read all the S&W praise in this thread!
 
My take: The Ruger GP100 is overbuilt for the diminutive .22LR. I have a 617 and like it but if I had the option to choose between the 617 and a blued 17 I’d lean towards the 17. One reason being I like .22s in six inch barrels. The other one is its blued. Although I own numerous stainless guns and enjoy shooting them I always think of them as sterile in appearance...

Oh.. and welcome to THR.....
 
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The other one is its blued. Although I own numerous stainless guns and enjoy shooting them I always think of them as sterile in appearance

I second this. I went through a phase where I thought stainless guns looked cool and a couple of my current guns (My 617 and my 63-5) are stainless but all things being equal I prefer that classic walnut on blued steel look.
 
Smith makes/made a great .22 when they still did the Model 18. Mine's an 18-3 built in '71 and is as accurate from a rest as my Model 41 Smith with ammunition it likes. If you keep an eye out, they do come up and sometimes at a reasonable price. I found the one below, pictured with a Colt Diamondback also in .22 LR, on GB and won it for $725 + shipping, several years ago. The previous owner was a low number dealer so bidding wasn't very heavy. When received, I found it to be virtually unfired.

If you get by the need for a DA/SA revolver, Ruger's excellent Single Six, especially the convertible model is a fine gun and more accurate than you can hold I'll bet. We've had one around the house since the early '70's, and found the extra .22 Magnum cylinder to be useful for raccoon disposal out in our horse feed bins. Given the choice, and for the $, it'd be my first choice.

Lastly, the Colt Diamondback is a fine revolver, but not as good as the Smith, nor the Ruger for accuracy plus collectors have driven the prices up to stratospheric levels. It's ok in SA mode, but Colt never did figure out how to build a revolver action that didn't stack in DA. Given one, I'd keep it, but I'd never buy one now for the reasons presented. This one below I found at a Louisville gun show at the turn of the century (a nice phrase), for the princely sum of $425.

HTH's Rod

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Those are beauties.

I'm starting to get a feel for appreciating the craftsmanship that goes into these well-engineered machines.

I went into the local shop yesterday and they told me it was perfectly fine to fill out a 4473 just over a week out from the one at the chain sporting goods store. In fact, they told me that there isn't a required amount of time between 4473s in my state, but better safe than sorry. I got delayed as expected, but they told me unless otherwise notified, I could come in and pick up the Model 17 Friday. I'm really excited, but not counting any chickens until they hatch.

Does anyone else find a certain sense of satisfaction simply from the sound and feel of the wheel locking into place?
 
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Those are beauties.

I'm starting to get a feel for appreciating the craftsmanship that goes into this well-engineered machines.

I went into the local shop yesterday and they told me it was perfectly fine to fill out a 4473 just over a week out from the one at the chain sporting goods store. In fact, they told me that there isn't a required amount of time between 4473s in my state, but better safe than sorry. I got delayed as expected, but they told me unless otherwise notified, I could come in and pick up the Model 17 Friday. I'm really excited, but not counting any chickens until they hatch.

Does anyone else find a certain sense of satisfaction simply from the sound and feel of the wheel locking into place?

You're not alone.

About 10 years ago I had Beretta with a trigger that wouldn't reset all the way. I took it to a gunsmith and $60 later it was working. I learned a few days later it was a $4 spring that takes less than 5 minutes to get out and replace. That irked me a bit but it got me reading and learning more about my guns so I could do some of this stuff on my own. I've come a long way since then and now that I know a bit more about what's going on inside of them I really appreciate the engineering that goes into some of these things.
 
I honestly don't think either Ruger fits the description of what you want. I'd suggest looking around for a nice used H&R or maybe a JC Higgins you can pick up for a couple hundred bucks. Just make sure the lockup is good and the firing pin not dinged. They're easy and fun shooters, accurate, and you're not out much if she doesn't like it.

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I've got a little S&W 63 3" that I picked up used a few months back. I'm really digging it. Much more than the 22 autoloaders I've been shooting for years.
Now I'm thinking about picking up a second one. Not the exact same thing -- no need for two, but another 22 the gf can shoot if she comes along and that we can switch off with.

Here's one I don't think anyone has mentioned,,,
The 8-round SA/DA 4" or 6" barrel Rossi R98 Plinker.

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I bought mine a few years back just before Rossi discontinued them,,,
The little shooter is a fine performing little revolver,,,
I wish I had bought the 6" version as well.

Here it is next to my 4" S&W Model 63,,,
You can see it's comparable to the S&W J-frame guns.

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One of my lady friends keeps trying to cajole me out of this gun,,,
But I like it too much to get rid of it.

Gunbroker.com has one of the 6" models with a bid of $349.00 right now.

Another one by Rossi that is an "oldie but goodie",,,
Is the 6-round SA/DA 4" Rossi Model 511,,,
Here it is against my S&W Model 63.

The Rossi (on the left) is almost an exact clone of my S&W 63,,,
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Rossi also made a Model 518 that is just like the 511,,,
I honestly don't know what the difference between them is.

Anyways, being the owner of the R98 and the 511,,,
I can attest to them being very fine performing fiery-arms.

Aarond

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aarondhgraham

Those older Rossi revolvers were indeed "oldies but goodies" as I had a stainless Model 88 that was every bit the equal of it's S&W J frame counterpart at the time.
 
Jeff

I would let the Ruger go for the time being and focus on getting the S&W Model 17; an all-time .22 classic! If you're thinking about a fun little plinker with a "cowboy" look to it, you'll definitely want to consider a Ruger Single Six.
 
You won't find anything better to match your criteria. However, if you're comfortable buying on Gunbroker, you might want to look for those items I mentioned previously, as they'll offer the same match to your criteria, give you the same service, at 20% of the cost, and if it doesn't work out you can just "write it off" as a "learning experience"
 
I have the SP101 (vintage 6-shot, full lug), Dan Wesson (8"), and a 17-2 (6"). The S&W is a tad superior in every way to the DW (which is still a good gun), and both are light years ahead of the Ruger. The rimfire SPs only real advantage is toughness and corrosion-resistance. The Ruger would make an excellent trail or tackle-box gun, but cant hold a candle on the range.

You guys will be very happy with any of the double-action Smiths.:thumbup:
 
Howdy

As has already been stated, the K frame S&W 22s are pretty much the gold standard for 22 caliber revolvers.

Left to right in this photo are a Model 17-3, K-22 Masterpiece, K-22 Outdoorsman, another K-22 Outdoorsman, and a K-22 Combat Masterpiece.

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The Smith & Wesson K frame was originally designed in 1899 as the perfect size for a six shot 38 caliber revolver. In 1931 it was adapted for 22 Rimfire with the introduction of the K-22 Outdoorsman. Because the overall size of the revolver was the same as a K frame 38, but because the holes for the chambers and bore were smaller than a 38, the K-22 consequently weighed a little bit more than a K frame 38. The K-22 Outdoorsman had no rib on top of the barrel. After WWII, S&W put a rib on top of the barrel and changed the name slightly to K-22 Masterpiece. The K-22 Masterpiece was part of a family of three target revolvers, the K-22 Masterpiece, the K-32 Masterpiece, and the K-38 Masterpiece. All built on the K frame, as the names imply the K-22 was a 22 rimfire, the K-32 was chambered for the 32 S&W Long cartridge, and the K-38 was a 38 Special. They all had the modern click adjustable micrometer rear sight and they all had a rib on top of the barrel. And they all weighed pretty much the same.

In 1957 S&W changed over to a model number system for their revolvers, and the K-22 became the Model 17. Basically the same as the K-22 Masterpiece with a barrel rib and the microclick adjustable rear sight, just a new name for an old revolver.

All S&W revolvers made of stainless steel have a 6 as the first digit in the model number, so the Model 617 is simply a stainless version of the Model 17.




Here is a photo of a K-22 Outdoorsman at the top, a Model 17-3 in the center, and a Model 617 at the bottom. All have 6" barrels. I don't much care for the Model 617, with the full length underbarrel lug I think it is ugly, and that massive barrel and underlug make it pretty heavy. If you count the cylinder flutes you will see that the K-22 and the Model 17 are six shooters.

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The 617 is a ten shot revolver. Frankly, I prefer six shooters. You can burn up an awful lot of ammunition with a ten shooter. A six shooter makes me slow down a little.

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Going back to the K-22 Combat Masterpiece in the first photo, here is a photo of it with a K-22 Masterpiece with a 6" barrel. S&W usually used the term 'combat' for a revolver with a four inch barrel. Also, notice the different style of front sight. Target revolvers had a Patridge style front sight as seen on the revolver at the top of the photo. 'Combat' revolvers had a Baughman front sight, designed to be pulled from a holster without snagging on the leather.

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The current four inch Model 617 is the closest you are going to find to the old K-22 Combat Masterpiece. It is a ten shooter and it does have a full length underbarrel lug, so it will weigh a bit more than the old K-22 Combat Masterpiece. If I was interested in a brand-spanky new S&W revolver, I would probably look pretty hard at the four inch version of the Model 617.



One more photo. A few years ago my club ran a Women on Target event for women who were new to shooting. I don't know this lady's name, but she is a brand new shooter who had never fired a revolver before. She did a pretty good job with my old K-22 Combat Masterpiece.

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I said this once before - you have some beautiful photos.
 
Some thoughts. The older s&w k frames (17,18) only were 6 shot revolvers. Not having a full underlug barrel they are lighter for a given barrel length than the later 617 10 shot.

Weight wise the current S&W 617 4" is spec'd at 39 oz and the Ruger GP100 5.5" at 42 oz. Ruger did make some 4.2" bbl GP100 .22LRs so weight may be similar to the 617. The SP101 4.2" is speced at 30 oz.

The Rugers (SP and GP) both have grip studs versus other's grip frames. This allows a greater latitude in grip selection to fit one's hands as the grip size in length can be adjusted. The actions can be improved on the SP and GP with lower rated springs to a degree and smoothed. Doing the same to the S&W the Smith probably can have the lightest trigger pull on the 17,18 and 617. With some work on the SP (springs and trigger work) you can probably get the trigger to where you are now at on the 63. In the past Ruger made the SP101 in 6 shot .22LR versions.

As others have noted there are also Charter Arms and Taurus revolvers out there. In the past Colt made some .22's in the smaller frame such as the Diamondback and larger frames. These have not been made for some time and will be relatively expensive.
 
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