.22LR stopping power?

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Out of a handgun, hollow-points generally will not expand, and they seem to penetrate just fine, too.

Not in my case. It disintegrated into nothing as soon as hit a bone. It didn't stop me despite no immediate adrenaline rush. I did get a huge surge once I noticed a tiny hole and blood. It didn't hurt until in the er later. Of course, I've heard similar stories about 9mm up to 45.

I still say go with round nose. Hollow tip 22's just don't have much material, no matter how expensive or modern they may be. Out of all the tiny to medium sized animals I've hit, I've only seen 22 fragments from hollowtips, never a complete or complete and expanded hollow tip. They just seem to disintegrate whenever they hit bone. Of course I'm not saying it is impossible, I've just never seen one survive intact.

if all I had was a .22 LR revolver, I'd stand my ground with it.

Absolutely! A 22 will still get it done, assuming you place your shot where you should. I'd keep squeezing till I was empty, though.
 
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I still say go with round nose. Hollow tip 22's just don't have much material,

Yeah, given the small size of the bullets and the anecdotal evidence, I'd go along with that, although flat-nosed or hard-cast SWC bullets would be slightly better if there were any to be found. The closest thing I know of would be the CCI SGB (Small Game Bullet), but it's only loaded up to Mini-Mag velocity, which could be marginal out of a 4" barrel (6" would definitely be better). Well, it should get 12", which would satisfy most people--I happen to have a higher personal standard for penetration, but sometimes I need to put that aside as a separate subject. A solid-bullet Velocitor would be ideal, but I don't think it's being produced. If I had more experience with the 60 grain Aguila SSS, then that might be my top choice, although I've heard nothing but good things about it, and it tests well.

I need to do more research to get a better understanding of .22 LR defensive loads (e.g. is the harder lead that Winchester uses in many loads in other calibers also used in .22 LR, and could it be an advantage?), but ones like the Velocitor, SGB, and SSS can be effective out of medium-sized pistols based on penetration, and the Stinger, which is a failure in larger guns against humans, in my opinion, can make even short-barreled handguns fairly effective.

no matter how expensive or modern they may be.

Right, the expense only takes care of the ignition reliability issue, and the modern aspect is that some .22 LR loads are hot enough to get effective penetration against human targets out of handgun barrels. If you ask me about random loads in random handguns, then I wouldn't be arguing so hard on behalf of the caliber regarding defense.

By the way, I'm really trying my best to make sense of what I'm seeing and learning, not just arguing an extreme point of view for fun. My mom seriously wants to use a .22 LR revolver for personal defense, and therefore I want to know whether it is truly a viable option. To my great surprise, I've found that it is far more viable than I had ever believed (at least in relation to other handgun calibers), especially in the hands of somebody who shoots it so much better than any other caliber. While it's definitely not the most effective per round, it could bring out the greatest overall effectiveness in some shooters. :scrutiny:

Either this thread has nine lives...or it needs an ashen stake driven through it's heart. :rolleyes:

I won't deny that more recent threads would be more appropriate in some ways, but I think that new things are being said and that new information is being offered now in this one.
 
Years ago I had a 22lr SA as my truck gun that saved my bacon once. Would a .357 have been a better choice? Certainly.

But the bitty little .22 did the job as it met the "1st rule" which is to actually have a gun. I carry something a little bigger now but occasionally it'll still get a day ridin' in the truck. ;)

Mike
 
I keep a couple mags for my .22lr's loaded, just in case. The .22s aren't my go to weapon but fine for back up. I happen to have a few hundred 32g HP CCI Stingers from a deal I made so that's the round I keep loaded for SD, if I didn't have those the Blazers or Mini-Mags I normally shoot would be in.
 
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