243 Truck Gun
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mustanger98
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I don't know much about Mossberg or Stevens rifles, but I know Savage makes Stevens. For a .243 as a truck gun, I'd pick my Savage Model 11.
mustanger98
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I bought my Savage new for just over $400 tax and all. If you can get that Stevens, which is a Savage product for $250, I think you better go for it. But you'll need a scope, rings, and bases because I don't think those models have sights.
R.W.Dale
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Nothing makes a better truck gun than a synthetic Remington 7600 carbine and a couple extra mags. Especially when fitted with some form of folding-collapsible stock
mustanger98
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Yeah, whatever, but can he get it for $250 out the door? And that Stevens don't need mags. Just put a butt cuff on it and there's 9rds ready to go with a couple more boxes in the glove box.
R.W.Dale
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So you'll have just as much or more tied up in the Stevens truck gun then you will a new 7600 which does come with sights. If you shop around for used You can get pumps for less than $300 easily.
mustanger98
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Personally, I'd stick with the bolt anyway. Not everybody likes pumps just like not everybody cares for AR-15's. "Everybody's doin' it"? No, everybody ain't. Besides, from your sig line, I'd say your injection of Remington pumps into this thread comes from your own dislike for Savage. But the OP didn't ask if you liked Savage; he was asking about which would be preferable between Stevens and Mossberg. As a Savage owner, I still recommend the Savage-made rifle.
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1) upgrade from Stevens a bit to a Savage 11G w/ open sights; use see thru mounts if you want a scope & want to use open sights...versatility; just got a Savage 111G (.25-06) w/ accutrigger; had a Stevens 200 (.30-06) w/o the accutrigger...the accutrigger makes a big difference; you will want to get the trigger worked on if you get the Stevens and this takes away from the money saved over getting a regular Savage
2)I don't have any experience w/ Mossbergs...I know the ATR 100 came out before the 4 x 4 and getting reliability reports would lean toward the ATR 100; both look good for the money...can't say yea or nay
3) agree on the Remmy 760/7600 platform w/ reservations; I had a NIB 7600 synthetic that had some mechanical problems that made me turn 180 and dump it to a shop owner/smitty; my dad's 760 is a different story...runs like a top and does 1 1/2" groups at 100 yards with Remington Core Lokt 150 gr .30-06 ammo
4 if you don't really need a spitzer tip round, you might opt for a good lever in .30-30 or .44 mag or .357 mag; depends on your needs and anticipated range the shots will be taken at
2)I don't have any experience w/ Mossbergs...I know the ATR 100 came out before the 4 x 4 and getting reliability reports would lean toward the ATR 100; both look good for the money...can't say yea or nay
3) agree on the Remmy 760/7600 platform w/ reservations; I had a NIB 7600 synthetic that had some mechanical problems that made me turn 180 and dump it to a shop owner/smitty; my dad's 760 is a different story...runs like a top and does 1 1/2" groups at 100 yards with Remington Core Lokt 150 gr .30-06 ammo
4 if you don't really need a spitzer tip round, you might opt for a good lever in .30-30 or .44 mag or .357 mag; depends on your needs and anticipated range the shots will be taken at
mustanger98
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I mentioned my Model 11 earlier... it's a 11GL. It shoots very well. First time at the range and I only made one adjustment before bustin' rocks at 100yds. I did have a fixed 4X in see thru's on there to see how I could get it to group, but for general use, I took the scope off. I had been thinking of installing a Foolproof, but now I'm looking into installing an XS ghost ring set. I figure if I set it for dead-on at 200yds, it oughta be good to go.
I'd recommend either of these three too.
R.W.Dale
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I have nothing against savage rifles as long as they don't come equipped with the retarded accu-glock trigger. When cheap and bolt action are in the same sentence I'll be one of the first to recommend a savage. But for the express purpose of a truck gun In my experience with the models mentioned the 7600 is just a better mouse trap.
kir_kenix
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i really like the 200. i have 4 of them, pretty much for the reason that u mentioned. the only thing i really dont like is the follower, as sometimes when loaded all the way to the top they wont positively grab that first round unless you really pull the bolt to the rear (mainly the .223). other then the ugly stock (ive painted all but one) they are a pretty decent rifle im not afraid to abuse/throw under the truck seat.
jpwilly
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Nosin Nagant M44 for $69 bucks...it comes with iron sights and a bayonett for when you run out of ammo! The Mossy and Stevens deserve better.
22LongRifle
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I say get the cheapest in the caliber you want and the sighting option you want. I don't think there is a nickle differance between any of them at that price.
+1 on the other suggestion also.
22lr
+1 on the other suggestion also.
22lr
mustanger98
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He's probably fixing to post a picture of the AccuTrigger and some retarded comment involving something looking/quacking like a duck, or he's done it before.
My Model 11GL has the AccuTrigger. It's easily adjustable to be quite light. It's as good a feel as any other trigger I deal with. If you don't like it, don't buy one. I like mine. Get over it.
R.W.Dale
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I won't bother as you'll just try to tell me the two are completely different despite the fact that the two are almost identical in operation and design. You've done it before
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R.W.Dale
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Back on topic despite the blatant the personal attacks.
Another important point to be addressed with regards to a truck gun is that laws vary by location on what's allowable in having a loaded rifle in your truck. This is where in my opinion having a detachable magazine or the ability to use strippers is a must for a serious truck gun.
Another important point to be addressed with regards to a truck gun is that laws vary by location on what's allowable in having a loaded rifle in your truck. This is where in my opinion having a detachable magazine or the ability to use strippers is a must for a serious truck gun.
rangerruck
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the mossberg atr is a killer of a rifle they are putting out now, good accuracy, tough stock, with built in pillar beds and, and built in sling swivels. also if you get the super bantam it comes with a super short stock for kids, and also comes with a set of spacers for growth, plus a very thick recoil pad. this short little number would be ideal for tossing behind the seat of a truck.
mustanger98
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I'd point out that I simply pointed out a difference of opinion and a pattern of what's happened in the past. Look where the real personal attacks are coming from.
Now, back to our topic:
In Georgia, were legally not allowed to have a loaded long gun in a vehicle. I never heard where a detachable mag loaded was a problem. I also never heard where having a shell carrier on the stock was a problem. As far as detachable mags, strippers, and extra cartridges not in either are concerned, the best is probably a British Enfield. As I said, not everybody cares for pumps, but then obviously not everyone cares for bolts and levers either.
I hadn't heard about this one, but it sounds interesting.
Now, back to our topic:
In Georgia, were legally not allowed to have a loaded long gun in a vehicle. I never heard where a detachable mag loaded was a problem. I also never heard where having a shell carrier on the stock was a problem. As far as detachable mags, strippers, and extra cartridges not in either are concerned, the best is probably a British Enfield. As I said, not everybody cares for pumps, but then obviously not everyone cares for bolts and levers either.
I hadn't heard about this one, but it sounds interesting.
KiltedClaymore
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id have to agree with the mosin comment. the guns everyone is suggestin are hunting guns. for a truck gun, an AK-47 underfolder with some extra mags in the glove box will do fine. or an SKS. truck guns are supposed to function in the worst moments of desperation. ex military guns work great.
kir_kenix
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heres my first one...(stevens)
well this is either a .223 or a .243 stevens (they are half the world away right now so i cant check). it looks nicer when i have the camo-wrap/grass camo on it. this one did sport an inexpensive 8-32x40 BSA AO that i used to dispatch coyotes feeding on the river (dead pigs dumped down by the river by our neighbors). I have since switched the scope out. anyways, like i mentioned earlier, these are good, sturdy, dependable, practical, and accurate rifles that can be had for quite a bargain. i really do not like the rough hollow grey stocks, but i can fix that in just a few hours. all of my stevens rifles have their stocks sanded and painted (i painted the barrels on 3 of them), the trigger cleaned up as best as i can (it has a fairly user friendly trigger to begin w/, but with some tinkering and some lapping compound and dry firing it gets a little better, tho there is still some lateral play unless they are shimmed in w/ washers), have their stocks properly glass bedded (already come piller bedded), and i like to fill the hollowish butt-stock w/ "the good stuff" foam to cut down on noise if i brush against a tree. with just the work i already mentioned and a decent scope, I can put together a rifle that will run w/ some more expensive guns, or better. plus, if i beat it up a little...so what? these are good shooting guns out of the box, but i prefer to put in an afternoon of work and make them just a tad bit better shooting/looking.
coyote/prarie dogs beware! they don't know if they get shot with a $275 stevens or $1100 cooper
well this is either a .223 or a .243 stevens (they are half the world away right now so i cant check). it looks nicer when i have the camo-wrap/grass camo on it. this one did sport an inexpensive 8-32x40 BSA AO that i used to dispatch coyotes feeding on the river (dead pigs dumped down by the river by our neighbors). I have since switched the scope out. anyways, like i mentioned earlier, these are good, sturdy, dependable, practical, and accurate rifles that can be had for quite a bargain. i really do not like the rough hollow grey stocks, but i can fix that in just a few hours. all of my stevens rifles have their stocks sanded and painted (i painted the barrels on 3 of them), the trigger cleaned up as best as i can (it has a fairly user friendly trigger to begin w/, but with some tinkering and some lapping compound and dry firing it gets a little better, tho there is still some lateral play unless they are shimmed in w/ washers), have their stocks properly glass bedded (already come piller bedded), and i like to fill the hollowish butt-stock w/ "the good stuff" foam to cut down on noise if i brush against a tree. with just the work i already mentioned and a decent scope, I can put together a rifle that will run w/ some more expensive guns, or better. plus, if i beat it up a little...so what? these are good shooting guns out of the box, but i prefer to put in an afternoon of work and make them just a tad bit better shooting/looking.
coyote/prarie dogs beware! they don't know if they get shot with a $275 stevens or $1100 cooper
Richard.Howe
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If you're looking to kill a truck, you're going to need more than a .243.
I'd probably just get a 7600 or M700 ADL/SPS with open sights if it's a cheap truck gun you're after.
I read a pretty unflattering review of the Mossberg on the Outdoor Life site last night. You might want to check that out. If you're not married to the Mossberg/Stevens plan, Remington made a fairly inexpensive plastic-stocked youth rifle. I handled a used one at Gander Mtn a few years ago and it was one of the best-fitting rifles I'd ever held. Another choice might be an older Ruger 77 All-Weather model. Good luck.http://http://www.clcweb.net/Shooting/Remington_243/remington_243.html
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sig226
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Viking have you looked at Savage Model 99 rifles? You can get them fairly cheap, since many shooters don't appreciate the rifle. They use a box magazine, so you can use Spitzer bullets. Some rifles have detachable magazines, should this be an issue for you.
Good rifle, quick repeat shots, easy to find and inexpensive.
Good rifle, quick repeat shots, easy to find and inexpensive.
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