The implication here is, "It's okay to violate the four rules of safe gun handling if you're in a life-or-death situation." No. I don't accept that, on the street, at the range, getting a massage, wherever. The four rules are inviolate, and people who cannot accomodate them should not be carrying guns at all.But ya' shouldn't touch the trigger, right?? Sure, but we're talking about how things work on the mean streets and not a shooting range.
The implication here is, "It's okay to violate the four rules of safe gun handling if you're in a life-or-death situation." No. I don't accept that, on the street, at the range, getting a massage, wherever.
The four rules are inviolate, and people who cannot accomodate them should not be carrying guns at all.
Assuming you change nothing else, a 3.5# connector yields a 4.5-5.0# two-stage trigger pull.
The only way that such a "mistake" can be made is if the shooter is violating Rule #3, and maybe Rule #2. That is a training problem, not an equipment problem.I said nothing of the kind! My point was that under the substantial stress of a shooting situation a mistake sometimes happens with a lighter trigger pull then might not be the case with a heavier one. Because of this many if not most law enforcement agencies specify heavier trigger pulls.
Their reasons may be good and sufficent for some, but I prefer a lighter trigger on my defensive guns, for equally good reasons (namely that I like to hit what I'm shooting at.)Glock usually installs the 5 1/2 pound triggers (regardless of the actual weight) in their service pistols. and they do so for good reasons.
SomeKid said:The 25c job is where you lighten the pull to 3.5lb and get rid of the slack, right?
What I want to know, is why do they call it 25c job, if the piece you have to buy to replace the stock part costs $15?
ChrisRhines said:Also, you're still mixing up connector weight and trigger weight. The three connector weights are 3.5, 5, and 8 pound. Glock factory triggers usually show up at around 6.0-7.0 pounds out of the box (assuming a 5# connector and standard-weight trigger spring.)
OldFuff said:One problem with the Glock pistol is that once you touch the trigger, additional pressure will cause it to go "bang!"
Old Fuff said:Again you miss my point. Glock usually installs the 5 1/2 pound triggers (regardless of the actual weight) in their service pistols. and they do so for good reasons. Some police departments don't find this to be heavy enough (New York City for example). Could it be they have some reasons too?
The only way that such a "mistake" can be made is if the shooter is violating Rule #3, and maybe Rule #2. That is a training problem, not an equipment problem.
I prefer to assume that people who carry guns will avail themselves of enough training to avoid these kind of mistakes. If they don't, well, goodbye, good luck, and I hope we never cross paths.
Their reasons may be good and sufficent for some, but I prefer a lighter trigger on my defensive guns, for equally good reasons (namely that I like to hit what I'm shooting at.)
wally said:With the 3.5 connectors I can finally hit well enough with my Glocks (17 & 21) to not embarrass myself, but I guestion if the 3.5lb connector is safe for carry.
Mine are strictly range guns (safe queens mostly these days) so its not an issue for me, but should be considered before the "Glocks are so easy to work on" crowd starts messing with things.
--wally.
Arethusa said:No one (sane) carries a cocked and unlocked 1911. A Glock with a 3lb trigger pull is very nearly a single action pistol without a safety.
In other words, if you don't want it to fire, exercise a bit of trigger discipline.