25 most Dangerous Cities in America

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From my local news Chanel 13 - in Orlando FL.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2009/6/25/nation39s_25_most_dangerous_neighborhoods.html


A newly-released study of FBI crime statistics shows that Florida is home to four of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the country. The study was developed by NeighborhoodScout.com, a Web site that compares neighborhoods on a number of factors, including crime statistics.

1. Cincinnati, -- Central Pwky./Liberty St.
2. Chicago, IL -- State St./Garfield Blvd.
3. Miami, Fl -- 7th Ave./North River Dr.
4. Jacksonville, FL -- Beaver St./Broad St.
5. Baltimore, MD -- North Ave./Belair Rd.
6. Kansas City, MO -- Bales Ave./30th St.
7. Memphis, TN --Warford St./Mt. Olive Rd.
8. Kansas City, MO -- Forest Ave./41st St.
9. Dallas, TX -- Route 352/Scyene Rd.
10. Richmond, VA -- Church Hill
11. Memphis, TN -- Bellevue Blvd./Lamar Ave.
12. Dallas, TX -- 2nd Ave./Hatcher St.
13. Springfield, IL -- Cook St./11th St.
14. St. Louis, MO -- 14th St./Dr. Martin Luther King Dr.
15. Little Rock, AK -- Roosevelt Rd./Bond St.
16. Philadelphia, PA -- Broad St./Dauphin St.
17. Tampa, FL -- Amelia Ave./Tampa St.
18. New York, NY -- St. Nicholas Ave./125th St.
19. Chicago, IL --66th St./Yale Ave.
20. Baltimore, MD -- Orleans St./Front St.
21. Cleveland, PH -- Cedar Ave./55th St.
22. Orlando, FL -- East-West Expy./Orange Blossom Trail
23. Detroit, MI -- Mt. Elliott St./Palmer Ave.
24. Chicago, IL -- Wallace St./58th St.
25. Chicago, IL -- Winchester Ave./60th St.


The methodology and data used to determine the list of the 25 most dangerous neighborhoods in America is simple and utilizes information from many reliable third party sources. Using FBI data from 17,000 different agencies Dr. Andrew Schiller and his team looked at key indicators as identified within the FBI Uniform Crime Reports. Incidents and rates per 1,000 people in a neighborhood population for specific violent crimes were then calculated.

The violent crimes considered by Dr. Schiller as key indicators of a "dangerous neighborhood" are:

• Murder
• Non-negligent manslaughter
• Forcible rape
• Armed robbery
• Aggravated assault

Other crimes like date rape, domestic assault and child abuse (not classified as aggravated), and petty theft were excluded from the data. Property crimes, however, were incorporated in to the rating given to the various neighborhoods identified in the study.

Researchers looking to identify the most dangerous neighborhood in America compiled ratings for each of these factors. An overall rating was assigned to neighborhoods based on a combination of violent crime data and property crime figures. A prediction was then made of the likelihood, per 1000 people in the neighborhood, that a resident would fall victim to one of the identified crimes.

The data was collected over a period of three years and deviations were added. Confounding variables such as socio-economic conditions, proximity to social service centers, policing resources per area, and age/condition of the neighborhood were not factored into the results.
 
Road trip.

I want to travel the country and visit each of those neighborhoods.

I can start right here since I live a couple miles from one on the list.
 
Orlando's most dangerous neighborhoods (areas where even on duty cops seldom go without backup) are easy to see:

Map of 2009 murders (31 so far)

Map of 2008 murders (123)

It looks like the murder rate has dropped quite a bit this year. I don't live in the danger area, and I avoid them as much as possible. I carry all the time.
 
All sections of large cities that are impoverished.

No surprise as the criminal element tend to like to areas with large urban populations as, it gives them the more oportunity to prey on weaker individuals who have the "be a victim mentality" pounded in to their brains from childhood.

Those in power (since before the middle ages) have always known that if you build it (a city) THEY will come. There's oportunity for everyone in a large city.

Power to be taken for those already in power.
Money to be made by the already wealthy.
Work to be had for those willing to work.
Welfare to be given for those not willing to work.
Prey for those who would be preadators.

It's a good system if your smart enough to take advantage of it.

What I can't believe is it took the FBI (and a Doctor) a 3yr study to figure out basic human behavior.
Will
 
No surprise to see Florida as home to four of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the country.

Criminals like the tropics too.

BTW I'm a Floridiot by birth, (Miami) I just don't live there anymore. :D
 
well, at least florida is a relatively large and populated state. chicago is just one city and also has four of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the country. all that gun control is clearly doing a lot of good, eh?
 
What no East St. Louis, Illinois hmmmm im surprised.
You have to look at the way the FBI compiles their crime stats. ESL is too small of a town population wise to be in their stats. In other words the statistical data base is too small to show accurate numbers. ESL's pop is about 25,000. They do not include small towns because only 1 or 2 crimes can show a huge increase per capita in the crime rate. For example, to show how that works on a smaller scale, say you have a town with a pop of 500. Last year they didn't have any murders. This year someone goes off the deep end, kills his wife and 2 kids, then kills himself. Using the statistical approach it would show a murder increase per capita greater than anyplace in the US when in reality only 3 murders, all the same incident, occurred only once. The FBI's population cut off use to be not to include any towns under 50,000.
ESL still has more than their share of murders. In June 2008 which was the last month I saw stats for ESL, there were 19. About 20 yrs ago they were having 400+ murders every year. 400 murders with a pop of 25,000 and it wasn't included in the stats because the pop was too low. To put that in perspective, Chicago, pop of 3,000,000, has 400 murders an it's all over the news for the entire year. ESL has less than 1% the pop of Chicago and was having more murders.

well, at least florida is a relatively large and populated state. chicago is just one city and also has four of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the country. all that gun control is clearly doing a lot of good, eh?
If it were only so simple to extrapolate the data that way. You have to look at the demographics which are quite a bit different. For example, the population of those over 65 in FL is about 17%. The same age pop in Chicago is about 9%. In FL the pop below the poverty level is about 12% and going down. In Chicago the pop below the poverty level is nearly 17% and going up.
Figuring crime causation is a lot more complicated than just looking at one set of data and then saying "this is the cause". People spend their entire lives looking at statistics and causes which many factors those not in the field aren't even aware of.
 
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15. Little Rock, AK -- Roosevelt Rd./Bond St.

Great, going to Homer's on Roosevelt Rd. for lunch as we speak. Unfortunately I work for the state and can't carry in the office. State workers aren't worth more than a body bag, or so it seems. Wish me luck, y'all.
 
Most of the Chicago locations should be called West Gary rather than Chicago, they are so far from downtown.
 
If it were only so simple to extrapolate the data that way. You have to look at the demographics which are quite a bit different. For example, the population of those over 65 in FL is about 17%. The same age pop in Chicago is about 9%. In FL the pop below the poverty level is about 12% and going down. In Chicago the pop below the poverty level is nearly 17% and going up.
Figuring crime causation is a lot more complicated than just looking at one set of data and then saying "this is the cause". People spend their entire lives looking at statistics and causes which many factors those not in the field aren't even aware of.

it was really just a sarcastic comment about chicago's pointless gun control laws. i don't think i said that it was the cause. just that it isn't fixing anything, which i don't need a study to tell me.
 
I'm glad I nestled my family a dozen good hours away from the nearest of any of those places.

But I know Denver must be further down the list at some point. It's a toilet in certain areas.
 
i don't think i said that it was the cause. just that it isn't fixing anything, which i don't need a study to tell me.
The CCW laws don't have anything to do with it. It's a non sequitur. If it did then you wouldn't see places listed in FL, TX, TN, AR, or any other state with CCW.
 
Tampa, FL is a horrible place to live.

maskedman504, I sure hope you catch those hooligans who threw all those rock in your yard and ripped up your lawn all the way down to the concrete roots. Even that metal border-fence couldn't keep 'em at bay. I feel for you, man. ;)
 
Interesting, I attended Baylor University and surprisingly Baylor is in the one of the unsafe parts of Waco (if I am reading the map right).
 
What does most dangerous mean? Amount of crimes? All it takes is once to be a vic, that can be almost anywhere. I just refused a job offer in my town because I did a driving survey of the neighborhood at 8pm and saw what looks to be gang infested. No thanks, I don't want to be a Night Auditor across the street from the Denny's that just got hit by MS13 and left the cook dead. I definitely don't want to wonder why the glass front door to the Motel in question had cracks that look like from a fist that took to beating the door.
Does it make anyone feel better that their city wasn't on that list? Didn't do a thing for me.
 
The primary trend I have noticed is warm areas with a high population density, especialy of minority cultures tend to have more violent crime.
It has little to do with firearm ownership.

If it has a high number of non-locals coming and going, and a stream of people who know nobody else it is even more favorable to crime.
If it has a lot of diversity with competing minority cultures it has even more crime. And while it may not be politicly correct, if it has a high number of minorities, especialy blacks it also has high crime, primarily because a negative subculture is more prevalent in that segment of the population.

Who has all of those things? Florida. Florida is warm, it has a lot of people out at all times, drinking, partying, perhaps doing drugs, and engaging in behavior they might not if they were not on vacation.
It has competing minority groups, from Puerto Ricans, to African Americans, to Cubans, and a large population of all of them. It is a vacation destination for the East Coast.
It has a lot of people from the entire east coast coming and going, with it not uncommon for crowds of complete strangers that come and go seasonaly.
So Florida is a dangerous place statisticly.

In most states that get cold for significant portions of the year you will find the majority of the crime is commited during the warm months. When people get together, BBQ, party and socialize more with strangers. Winter months tend to be more indoors with socializing more friend and family oriented.
States that are warm year round have more of those same opportunities for crime. Areas used as wild vacation locations tend to attract a wild crowd of young people more prone to crime. Whether Florida for things like Spring Break, or New Orleans for things like Mardi Gras.

However one thing I will say is in most locations the crime is in predictable locations. Large parties, shot up night clubs, or gang on gang crime.
Places frequented less by families and more by young single people have more violent crime. Clearly because there is more young testosterone laden men.
So a family in even the more dangerous states or cities statisticly has about the same chance of encountering violent crime in other similar sized cities or states. It is a small segment of the criminals that target families minding thier own business. They ususaly target other young men they have a disagreement with.

So even the statistics are misleading. There can be places with lower violent crime statisticly that actualy pose a greater threat to families with more random victim crimes. While you can have a really high crime region that has primarily gang on gang crime, or young man attacking young man crime that most families will not deal with.
So violent crime is not simply violent crime. Murders and robberies are not all the same. That is where the statistics are misleading.

For example Phoenix, Arizona is the kidnapping capitol of the country, and second in the world based on known statistics. Yet the vhast majority of victims are involved in the drug trade. They are people targeted by the mexican drug organizations (cartel is such a poor term, cartels have a monopoly on a product while most of the "Drug Cartels" compete.)
So your risk of kidnapping in Phoenix, Arizona is no higher than in the rest of the country, yet statisticly it is the worst.
Statistics ignore cause and effect.
 
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