264 Win Mag On A Mauser

[therealdoublel]

I'm planning on having a gunsmith put the barrel on my action as i don't have a headspacing gauge, etc, and open up the bolt face, which i am wondering about just making a 30-06. I'm right in the middle of re welding AND bending the bolt handle I am going to grind down the top of the action and tap it for a scope mounting set up. I also will blue my action. And Yes I'm being careful to NOT! let my bolt get hot while welding!

 

[jimmyraythomason]

If you go with the 30.06 there will be no need to open up the bolt face.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

Krochus,what makes you think that I in anyway was referring to you? I know some of what you have done with your Stevens and Savages and that in no way changes what I said about simply removing a barrel nut and screwing in a different barrel. Yes,I assembled parts for some of my rifles but I also modified bolts on some, I removed the charger bridge(by hand) on all. Drilled and tapped for scope on all as well as polished and hot blued all. If you prefer the word assemble to build,that's okay with me. As long as end result is the work of your own hands.

 

[NCsmitty]

And Yes I'm being careful to NOT! let my bolt get hot while welding!

It's good to have a heat sink for the rear cocking cam surface and wet rags help a lot too.

The 264 Win Mag is a great long range caliber, in spite of being a little rough on barrels.

IMO, the 6.5x284 is also great for long range and is used in competition with good results. Factory brass is available from a few sources and the caliber will work in intermediate Mauser actions as well as standard actions.
The 6.5x284 is a very efficient round and should be considered along with the 264 Win mag. They are very close in performance.
The 6.5x284 works off a standard .47 boltface as it has a rebated rim.

Here's some interesting info.

http://www.6mmbr.com/sixfive284.html


NCsmitty

 

[Slamfire]

Can't argue against that. THAT particular bolt did indeed fail. It most likely would have failed even if it had been in an action chambered in 30.06 or smaller. MOST Mauser actions, even military actions are more than a match for even the mighty .458 Winchester Magnum.

It is possible that the bolt would have failed in the calibers you describe.

In my Lyman manual, I looked up maximum pressures for the 458 Win Mag and the 264 Win Mag. They are about the same.

However, I could fire many more maximum loads through a 264 Win Mag than I could with 458 Win Mag.

I fired two rounds in a Ruger #1 chambered in 458 Win Mag. That was way too much fun and I quit.

 

[dakotasin]

I would recommend just about any of the full length large ring 98 actions-German, Check, Argentine, just about any of them. The yugo 48 actions are intermediate length and too short to feed long bullets in a 06 case, the Spanish might be too soft, most of the Turks are small ring (and some other latin/south American mausers also).

could somebody explain to me why a turk would be unsuitable for a build? i thought it was a large ring mauser with a small ring shank...

 

[jimmyraythomason]

Turks are excellent for sporter builds. K.Kale Turks are large ring receivers with small shank barrels. Other Turks have large shank barrels. Either one makes a good platform for a sporter build. I have a K.Kale that I have built ..er..assembled into a .280 Remington using a #2 contour barrel.

 

[Gordon]

Actually I believe the real hard part of mauser modifications for feeding belted cases is opening the rails properly and modifying the follower to feed the cases nicely and reliably with out ruining the whole action. Just what I've seen in the last 50 years of hanging out with gunsmiths.

 

[bartonlong]

I wouldn't recommend a small ring shank turk for a magnum caliber due to worries about the barrel shank/chamber walls not being thick enough. This is not based on any actual engineering analysis but just gut feeling so it may be wrong. That being said I am building an 8mm-06 Ackley improved on a KKales Turk. This round is not really far off a 8mm magnum. As far as skills go the skill required for building a sporter mauser that looks good is not that difficult for someone with some mechanical aptitude. I do strongly recommend reading a couple of how to books before tackling this kind of project. I hire out the stuff I consider either beyond my skills or too much danger of me screwing up due to lack of experience-like the bolt handle work. On my first conversion I used a scope mount that allows an offset scope to be mounted (specifically a posp russian scope). This mount system works great with the bent bolt handle on an m48. There are also several scope mounts that work without grinding off the reciever bridge-by leopold and weaver. The scope mounting jig however is not optional. My next challenge is learning how to mount a front sight ramp. THis is how I would recommend it-as a series of skill progession. My first conversion was pretty much limited to hand reaming a short chamber 308 and custom fitting a boyds stock into an m48. THen i mounted the scope base very carefully using a drill press, square and several levels-and managed to get it right. The toughest part was getting the
amilitary barrel off-i finally just paid a gunsmith (Gary Reeder at pistol parlor in Flagstaff, Az)to do it since he had a much better barrel vise than I was willing to pay for. But before I ramble too long the books I mentioned previously are a very good starting point and www.surplusrifle.com also has several good how to articles on it. Good luck, and have fun! with it all-that is why we have this hobby-because we enjoy it. Also, really please start with a cheap enough rifle if you completely destroy it is not a major loss to yourself or history.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

The small shank of the K.Kale isn't any weaker because the metal surrounding the cartridge is the same.Where the thickness of the barrel at the thread is smaller, the thickness of the receiver is greater so there is no loss of metal surrounding the cartridge.

 

[jerkface11]

It'll take 5x the money and 100x the time to build a mauser over a savage. If you want you could spend the time you save polishing the savage and bluing it.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

80% of statistics are made up.

 

[lefteyedom]

Why build a Mauser..... because it is hard

We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too.