28 Weeks Later ::: SHTF MOVIE

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I refuse to call those things true "zombies". Everyone knows Zombies arn't fast like that.
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You my sir are correct. Zombies are dead already. These are not zombies, they are living people infected by what appears to be Rabies on steroids. Thus shooting them anywhere will kill them.

Saw this movie tonight. Enjoyed it much more than the original, which I believe to the the first sequel that I have ever seen that was better than the original. I loved it. Great movie.

Just another reason to take the wife/significant to see movies like this. "See what happens to a country that takes away your right to have firearms to defend yourself? You die." Thankfully, mine understands that.

Next point, of all SHTF movies, this is one situation that I can actually see coming to fruition. This Rage virus, is basically Rabies on some really nasty steroids. With the way even the basic cold and flu are mutating, I don't see any reason why rabies or something similar hasn't done the same yet. Or maybe it has in some backwoods part of the world, it just hasn't caught up to civilization yet. Or maybe it has, and it's being covered up. Off the conspiracy portion of that, the reality of this is very possible indeed from my humble point of view.
 
Just wanted to add that I liked the last scene in this movie so much but I don't want to ruin it for those who have not scene the movie yet. Lets just say that I am glad that we are in a different hemisphere.

For a great actual zombie movie, I like Dawn of the Dead (2004) and its fast moving zombies (screw Romero and his over reliance on gore).
 
Right , not true zombies. But the same basic problem : infection turning the ratio of good guy to bad guys fast. You get to shoot them in the body until it breaks or they bleed out which is a bonus - but they are fast , which is harder.

As for the hardware gripes - I am not much of a scope shooter , but the snipers were using M14's or m1a' Socom style 308's. The Aimpoints were on the carbines they all carried as secondary arms.

I also cringed when the kids were lit up in the dark by the business end of a NV sight. But it was the only vision option in a tunnel containing a demon. best choice for the situation I thought.

... and then there was the helicopter scene. .... Yow.
 
You dont need MOUT gear for zombies.
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Do you mean MOPP gear?
I think it would be nice to have in this environment if you are engaging in close quarters
Remember what happen to the father in the first movie
 
Interesting idea flushed down the toilet by characters doing incredibly stupid things for no purpose other than advancing the plot. I'll stick with the first.
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One of the mandates of any "zombie" movie requires that characters do incredibly stupid things to advance the plot. The filmmakers want the audience sitting out in their seats to groan and say to themselves..."WHAT are they doing?!"

Additionally...I don't think this (or the first movie) made the military look bad, if anything, the second film paints the military (and governments) with a broad institutional brush on the macro level and a heroic "do the right thing" brush on the micro level.

Keeping this post gun related...these movies give those of us who support private firearms ownership an interesting opportunity. I have had many conversations with people about the 28 Days films where the following questions were posed. "How come those people in that movie didn't have any guns?" or "How come only the military in those movies have the guns?"

Provides a nice segue to talk about disarmament policies in the UK...and gives a very concrete (albeit fantastic) example of a "what if" scenario.
 
Loved the movie, in fact they were giving away the 'warning' movie posters at our theater, got two.
Gotta confess I got a sick feeling in my stomach when the situation degenerates to the point where they give the order to kill all the civillians. From the moment they are hereded into the garage you just know its not going to go well.
 
I didnt like it as much as the first.


It is not a SHTF survival movie.



More like a SHTF watch people eat it movie.




Not a Zombie flick as like the first. More realistic. Virus Spreads rapidly, to living humans who remain living and can die just the same.




Makes an good point for private gun ownership. Because in this movie only the military has firearms and it turns out to be all bad. Not that the average person would stand any more of a chance with a firearm against hoards of infected and a such a huge military presence. At least I would of had a chance.

Buy the first on on DVD, and wait for the second to come out.


When does 300 come out on DVD? I need it!
 
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Makes an good point for private gun ownership. Because in this movie only the military has firearms and it turns out to be all bad. Not that the average person would stand any more of a chance with a firearm against hoards of infected and a such a huge military presence. At least I would of had a chance.
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Lol helpless you under-state.

Not only did civilians NOT have guns, when the military person who was herding them gets killed, and through the most unlikely of events they pick up the gun long enough to use it quickly, they immediately throw it to the ground afterwards like a cursed instrument of evil. Because they're bad, mmmkay?

And the farm-house, ***. The movie wasn't just anti-gun, and anti-free will, it was anti-self defence in general! A zombie movie that's anti-self defence!!! it's NOT enjoyable.



Phaetos I didn't like that part. Cartoonish. More plausible would be to use the tail rotor, which is documented in gruesome effect.
 
I thought the movie was pretty good, not quite as good as the first one which I thought was terrific. On the whole I think anyone returning to the source of infection for the worst, most dangerous epidemic in the history of mankind is idiotic. Nuke the island. All of it. Twice, then napalm it, then bomb it, then nuke it again, and then blockade it. And bomb it again. I think you get my point.
 
How come they didn't shoot the infected in the head? How does that work? Zombies that you can drop with body shots? Some of them were going down from being shot in the leg. Really weird.
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Zombies are the product of god's (or the devil's) wrath. The laws of physics break down cuz god can do whatever he wants. These are infected which are the product of an infectious biological agent. The zombies depicted in 28 days actually exist in the insect world among cockroaches, ants, etc. There are even a few parasites that alter human behavior but nothing to the extent that happens in arthropods. Well, at least not yet......
 
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Yes, tell more, wacki. I never heard of that. Can you expand on that? I've never heard of a biological agent causing what you are talking about. Granted, I'm also not an expert on entomological studies.

Also, what y'all say, about the Brits. Well, Children of Men was a similar story. Britain knows it's dying. Their apocalyptic fiction is nothing more than an acknowledgment of the suicide they are in the middle of committing.
 
"I don't want to ruin the movie, but it's NOT a zombie movie. Instead of civilians arming themselves, they come to live in a centrally-controlled society and rely on the gov't to protect them. When things start to go bad, instead of arming themselves they all are (literally) herded into a pen and await slaughter.

It's disgusting, and very very British."


Lucky, I must disagree.

When the American/ NATO troops start herding all the civies into the big dome...I was reminded of New Orleans. I was waiting for the stabbings, beatings, and rapings to commence :(

I agree completely that it was disgusting. But it is also very, very American.

You don't think when Martial Law is declared that you won't be rounded up and herded with the rest of humanity into little pens so as to protect you from yourself ;) ? Best way for the G-men to keep tabs on everyone is to pile em all up in one place.

Too bad, as we all well know, it is impossible to keep control of situations like that and ensure every single person's safety.


Anyway...good film...some very intense imagery. The first 15 minutes exhausted me.
 
I also note that fella on the right still has his safety on, which sort of defeats the fact that his finger is on the trigger.
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I can tell its not on "fire," but honestly cant tell if its on safe or auto/burst instead.
 
Yes, tell more, wacki. I never heard of that. Can you expand on that? I've never heard of a biological agent causing what you are talking about. Granted, I'm also not an expert on entomological studies.
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Zombification happens quite a lot in the insect kingdom. The lancet fluke takes control of an ant and forces the ant to attempt suicide by cow:

Acting out the demands of the unwelcome guests lodged in its head, an infected ant penetrates the jungle of foliage and selects a random blade of grass. It clambers up the long, thin leaf and crawls out to the tip, where it obeys a powerful urge to secure itself in position with its clamp-like mandibles.

Each dangling, stupefied ant-zombie remains paralyzed on its perch throughout the night. When the light and warmth of dawn reappear, the compromised insect comes to its senses and climbs back down to return home. During the day it rejoins its working comrades as though nothing happened; but as evening approaches, and temperatures cool, the parasitic flukes will once again urge their host to venture alone into the wilderness. A new blade of grass is selected and scaled, and the ant once again positions itself upon the tip. This bizarre modified existence continues until one day the dangling insect is sucked into the jaws of a beast. As a grazing cow plucks the occupied grass from the ground, it is oblivious to the zombie ant and its evil masters.
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http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=54

Afterwards the cow becomes infected and the cycle repeats.

There are parasites that take control of grasshoppers, cockroaches, etc.

There is even one parasite that is supposed to make women dumber and sluttier (when our immune system doesn't keep it in check) but that is a bit controversial and hotly debated. Here is a rough summary:
http://scienceblogs.com/loom/2006/08/01/a_nation_of_cowards_blame_the.php

But zombie insects truly are amazing. The parasite literally has complete control of the insect. It really isn't that far from a 28 days scenario for many insects.
 
The lancet fluke takes control of an ant and forces the ant to attempt suicide by cow:
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I learned about this years ago in one of my pest control seminars
I files it away with the fish that swims up your urine stream
 
Hmmm, this one slipped under the radar for a little too long. Sorry guys -- it is a long way from being on topic.

Take it on over to APS, please.

pax
 
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