3" Stainless revolver - SP101 or S&W 60?

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TFin04

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Wasn't really in the market for something like this until I saw a very nice Model 60 at a gun shop and it got me thinking.

I'm able to reload 38spl dirt cheap so this would be my main plinking gun. I like the J Frame size (I would put full size grips on it) because I have a 642 for carry. I used to own a stainless j frame and only got rid of it to get the 642.

Then comes in the SP101, which will do everything the Mod 60 would do, and is just a bit larger.

What would be your preference and why?
 
I am a huge fan of the SP101 and own several but for your stated purposes, plinking with reloaded .38 specials, I would be very tempted to go with the 3 inch Smith because of the adjustable sights. All the arguments about respective strength, etc. are not relevant and both revolvers are durable and reliable, but the fixed versus adjustables sights are a biggie for your purpose, IMO.
 
Damn! I was under the impression that the SP came with adjustable rear sights. I see they offer it in the 32 H&R, but not on the 357.

There is just something about those SP's that draw me in... I keep thinking of uses for this gun aside from my boring (but dead reliable and perfect for their job) Glocks.

I've already owned two S&W revo's....I'll be honest, I came here looking for people to convince me to the SP! :)
 
I have a S&W Mod 60-4 3" (.38Spl) and several Ruger SP101's
(.22lr 4", .32 H&R Mag 4", & .357 2.25" Magna Ported). All are nice and are excellent shooters. The Rugers have a heavier frame but the trigger on the S&W J Frame is a tad better. I have replaced all the hammer springs to obtain a lighter double action pull as follows:

S&W
Mod 60-4 from 8.5 lb to 8.0 lb

Ruger SP101's
.22lr from 14 lb to 12 lb
.32 H&R Mag from 14 lb to 11 lb
.357 Mag from 14 lb to 11 lb

I believe the Ruger SP101's are more durable than the S&W J frames by a considerable margin due to their heavier construction but the J frames have a nicer trigger and in the case of the 60-4 better sites.

I like both but if I could only have one I would definitely choose a Ruger SP101 over a S&W mod 60, or any S&W J frame for that matter, without hesitation. :)


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GaryP-

How do you compare the single action pulls of each gun? This gun, being a plinker (and probably shot by my girlfriend a whole lot) would be mostly fired in single action.

I'm familiar with the single action pull of a S&W J Frame as my old one had the shrouded hammer. I haven't shot a Ruger revolver, though.

Thanks!
 
TFin04 - I would never try to talk someone out of liking or buying an SP, however, the adjustable Smith is a darn nice revolver. If you can live with fixed sights for your purposes (I like fixed sight guns for mine), you won't go wrong with an SP, that's for sure.
 
TFin04,

In single action mode my Ruger SP101 .357 trigger and my S&W
Mod 60-4 trigger are pretty much the same.

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Consider a "K" frame Smith?

May I suggest you look at the "K" frame Smiths? They are only marginally larger than the "J" frames and offer six shots instead of five. Moreover, the "K" frames will shoot the .357 Magnum, although not designed for a steady all-day, every-day diet of the larger round.

The Model 67 is the stainless version of the Model 15 (K38 Combat Masterpiece) with adjustable sights. A good used shooter can be found for less than $300. The Model 65 is the stainless version of the fixed-sight Model 13 Magnum M&P. A good used 65 will typically run $25-$30 less than the adjustable-sight 67.

I have several "K" frame Smiths, and NO "J" frames. I like the balance and feel, and the increased recoil "resistance" of the slightly heavier "K" frame for moderate-to-long shooting sessions. (I'm also one of the old curmudgeons that believes a revolver should be a six-shooter.)
 
I briefly thought of the K Frame but would enjoy sticking with the Smith or the SP. I probably would strap this gun on for a concealed piece at least a few times a year (working out on the property, running to town for some parts, tools, etc) and like to keep any gun I may care for any reason to at least be capable of being concealed easily. The 60 and SP do that. With an IWB holster the extra barrel length doesn't make much difference.

I don't think the K Frame could do all of that for me.

I'm going to do some more looking at local gunshops and probably visit the one with the Model 60 for sale. I'll keep you guys updated. :)
 
Also, TFin04, consider this: if you really would like to be talked into the SP, then that is the one you want. If you get the Smith (nothing wrong with that) you will probably still want to scratch that SP itch. So, you might as well get the one you really want now. I don't think you would regret it.
 
I have a 60-15 3" and it is great, shoots great and full mag loads are not bad in it. I have not used an sp-101 but from what I have heard it is a good gun. I think you will be happy with either so get the one that is most comfortable to you.
 
I might have the only one on the planet, but the SP101 I bought from son-in-law before he headed for a second tour of Iraq fired .38 wadcutter, .357 140 grain carry loads, 158 grain SWC, and even HOT .357 180 grain JHPs to the same point of aim. I was flabbergasted when I found this out. Not having adjustables had kept me away from the SP, but he needed money and I gave him $250 for it telling him he could buy it back when he gets back. Actually, now, I think I'll take his money and put a couple hundred with it and go out and buy him a new gun and keep this one just because I think I might have the one in a thousand that shoots all my loads to the same POA and, not only that, but I didn't have to even lay a file on the front sight. It shoots STRAIGHT to POA at 25 yards. Needless to say, I'm REAL happy with it. :D I'd like to get a 3" version when he buys the gun back, but I'm thinkin' the sight regulation thing is more important than a little more sight radius and the shorter barrel does carry a little better in the thunderwear.

I got nothin' against the 60 other than the hole in the side plate that doesn't do much for me, but the SP101 is a stronger design hands down, by far. I can shoot my 180 grain load in it without worry where I don't feed that load even to K frame guns. It was developed for my Blackhawk, puts up 1306 fps out of my SP101 and is quite accurate, accurate enough to shoot game to 50 yards in fact, this from a snubby! I carry the gun a lot on my walk abouts and stoke it with this round. I'd not want to put it in a lesser gun like the 60 even for occasional use. The SP101 is strong enough to handle it. The round doesn't show any signs of high pressure and the powder charge is within max recommended, but it is so hot, it makes me nervous to shoot it in a non-Ruger. I might just be paranoid, but I don't wanna over-stress a gun of lesser strength. I do like the idea of one of those adjustable sighted M60s with the 5 inch barrel, though, for the back packer. I think that would be an accurate, adequately powerful gun and tote real light on the hip compared to a K frame. In stainless and if you're not in Alaska, it could be the ultimate outdoor/back packer's revolver. I guess you could have an SP101 built with an adjustable sight and a longer barrel, but I can't see Ruger ever offering a comparable revolver to that 5" M60. That gun has always sort of grabbed me even though I don't do much back packing anymore, just little walks on my place or hikes in the woods.
 
The model 60-15 handles big rounds like Buffalo Bore and Grizzly and Double tap just fine. And if they didn't then my 60 would be junk by now.
 
I own 60s and SPs. In the 3", I'd choose the 60, solely because of the adjustable sights, which to me (YMMV) kinda belong on a 3" 60, which Taffin called "The Trail Masterpiece."
 
SP-101, a lot of people don't seem to like the new S&W guns since they changed ownership years back.
 
I think Cylinder and Slide puts J-frame Smith sights on the SP guns.
A 3" SP with adjustable sights would be pretty slick.

Anthony
 
Held an SP for some time at the gunshop today... wasn't quite as impressed as I remembered. They didn't seem quite as "polished" as the Smith guns.

I can't really describe it, maybe the metal parts need to be used to mesh to each other, but actions felt like unpolished metal against each other. I'm sure with a good clean/lube and some shooting it would clear up, but it still bugged me.

I think I've decided that I will be going with the SP101. I just need to find the one I like now. The store only had one 3" model in stock.
 
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