blackbearaddict
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im tryin to figure out what bullets will shoot the best out of my gun and was wondering if anyone has any suggestion its a 30-06 remington model 721
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30-06 model 721 ammo
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only1asterisk
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Every rifle is an individual. You will have to try lots of loads before you find what shoots best in your gun.
If you let us now what you want ammo for (hunting, targets, etc.) there are some loads that tend to be more accurate than others.
David
If you let us now what you want ammo for (hunting, targets, etc.) there are some loads that tend to be more accurate than others.
David
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black bear
black bear hunting but long range
black bear hunting but long range
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im just worried about having enough power for the long shot 500+ yards
rcmodel
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Yep!
I would have to say far more big game gets shot at at 500 yards, then ever gets actually hit. And those few that do accidently get hit, get hit in the guts or other non-vital area.
It takes an exceptional rifle shot, and a damn good range estimation, to hit much of anything at 500 yards, let alone kill it cleanly.
BTW: I thought you shot black bears over a garbage pile with shotgun slugs!
What do I know!
rcmodel
I would have to say far more big game gets shot at at 500 yards, then ever gets actually hit. And those few that do accidently get hit, get hit in the guts or other non-vital area.
It takes an exceptional rifle shot, and a damn good range estimation, to hit much of anything at 500 yards, let alone kill it cleanly.
BTW: I thought you shot black bears over a garbage pile with shotgun slugs!
What do I know!
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I think if that is a consideration I'd find somewhere else to hunt bear.
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in montana your gonna have to get closer a majority of the time and if its gettin late on the last day with a rangefinder, 4x12 scope, ammo and ballistics book,practice, and one hell of a rest i think ill take the shot
blackbearaddict
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are Black Hills 180 Gr. Barnes Triple Shock good or crap?
Griz44
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You need to upgrade, say 50BMG and 3 feet of barrel?
NCsmitty
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You have to try them to see if they shoot well enough in your rifle. I think if you limit your shots to under 300 yds., the possibility of a successful hunt is much more realistic. I'm not calling your shooting abilities into play here, rather it's a matter of sportsmanship. The chance of wounding an animal is not worth that last ditch shot at extreme range. I know you would not want to wound an animal and have it crawl off to die and you not claim it. Will the '06 shoot 500 yds., of course, but the trajectory at that distance would be compromised by many factors.
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"...It takes an..." And that's being polite. Unless you regularly shoot at 500 yards and can hit a 9" pie plate, every time, at that distance, don't take the shot.
A Remington factory 180 grain Accutip has 1393 ft-lbs of energy left at 500. However, with a 200 yard zero, the same bullet drops 47.7"(3.975 feet) at 500. It'll kill a bear, but not if you can't hit the vitals.
That being said, like only1asterisk says, you have to try a box of as many brands as you can to find the ammo your rifle shoots best.
A Remington factory 180 grain Accutip has 1393 ft-lbs of energy left at 500. However, with a 200 yard zero, the same bullet drops 47.7"(3.975 feet) at 500. It'll kill a bear, but not if you can't hit the vitals.
That being said, like only1asterisk says, you have to try a box of as many brands as you can to find the ammo your rifle shoots best.
blackbearaddict
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i wasnt planning on just layin a shot out there unless the bear is wounded and gettin away and thats all the chance im gonna have .. thats all
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thanks for the advice though i wasnt planning on a shot past 400, thats where im confident
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I've owned 3 ...721's in 06 in the past and I would never attempt a shot past 300yds. They are good guns and with a custom barrel and properly bedded stock will shoot with the best. I never was able to find a load I ever felt confident with to justify carring a factory barreled 721 in the field. If your looking to shoot 500yds., I'd consider an upgrade maybe a Sendero. IMO
I'd be inclined to try 180gr Nosler BTs. I've learned to prefer a heavier bullet in 30-06 for big game hunting. We have deer here that don't realize they're dead until they've gone a 100yds or so, and w/o a trail to follow, they can be tough to find. With the same shot placement and the heavier bullet, they tend to stay put, or only go a few yds with a nice trail to follow.
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"wondering if anyone has any suggestion its a 30-06 remington model 721 "
Don't think anyone would notice a difference between a 721 and any other model.
If a bear is still going away at 400+ yards it's likely he will keep going much further no matter what scope, improvised rest or cartridge you use.
Don't think anyone would notice a difference between a 721 and any other model.
If a bear is still going away at 400+ yards it's likely he will keep going much further no matter what scope, improvised rest or cartridge you use.
I just loaded up a box of 30.06 for a friend that shoots an older Remington 721 - 180gr Nosler Accubonds over 41gr - 43 of IMR 4895 (from Nosler's website). We're going to shoot for groups tonight if the weather cooperates, so I'll let you know.
He'll likely never take a shot past 200 yds here (and probably way less than that) so I'm not sure how much good our results will do you. I don't have access to a range where we can get past 300.
He'll likely never take a shot past 200 yds here (and probably way less than that) so I'm not sure how much good our results will do you. I don't have access to a range where we can get past 300.
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