30-30 Lever, anyone?

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Lately I've been considering a lever action 30-30 for a multi-purpose rifle, but I have never fired one. If you run one of these, which do you have and why? What model do you recommend? Pros and cons or anything else I should know?
I know the 30-30 Win is ballistically very similar to the 7.62x39... is there anything one could reasonably do with a lever that couldn't be done with sn SKS?
Please, share your thoughts.
 
Yes, shoot 150 & 170 grain hunting bullets in the 30-30.

And shoot 2" groups at 100 yards with open sights.

The similarity to the SKS energy figures are on paper only.

I have a Pre-64 Winchester 94 Carbine, and I wouldn't get rid of it on a bet.

Beautiful old rifle, and probably more accurate then I am anymore.

rc
 
is there anything one could reasonably do with a lever that couldn't be done with sn SKS?
Well.. besides feeling more like an American, being able to use "standard" .308 bullets, and not having to ask anybody if it's ok,

Probably not.
 
My only deer rifle for 25 years was a Marlin 336 30-30.I bought it new in 1964 through the Navy store for 65 dollars at discharge.I took 16 deer with it.I would shoot 1 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards on average.I really liked it.I only sold it because it did not have the cross bolt safety.My grandsons are starting to shoot and I bought a youth Ruger M77 in .243 for them.
 
I would only of sold it because it did have a cross-bolt safety on it!!

They are an abomination, and totally unnecessary on a lever gun!!

If you don't trust yourself to use the half-cock safety properly.
Don't load it until you are ready to shoot.

Or do load it and don't close the lever all the way.

rc
 
as rc said, 150 and 170gr hunting loads.

mine is a '75 marlin 336 that i'll never get rid of. it's a great shooter, and it's the rifle i used to take my first buck, (using the iron sights). i plan to add a skinner peep at some point.

currently they can be found for less $ than an sks my ao, and they are certainly more pc, if that matters to you.
 
Just got one a couple weeks ago. Got a win94 with angle eject. I have a set of XS ghost ring sights on it.

It's good. Would also consider a 336. Not sure it really matters. Mine was an impulse by. It was used but like new and $299and with all more modern 94's thy are already drilled for XS sights r a scope mount.

Just took it to the field deer hunting yesterday but did not see anything.
 
3212, that hurts to hear that you sold such a fine old rifle for lack of a lawyer part.
 
The 30-30 is a great Deer cartridge and has been putting meat in the freezer for a very long time.

As for what the 30-30 levergun can do that the SKS can't, for one the levergun can be used for hunting in my state whereas the semi-auto SKS can't. The 30-30 is a touch of class and the SKS is a battle rifle. I own several leverguns ranging from 22LR to 45-70 and a 30-30 in between. I also own an SKS and I would much rather use a levergun for hunting than the SKS.
 
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I prefer my Win '68 to my Marlin 336 but owning both and an SKS I wouldnt hesitate to take either 30-30 hunting as they are really accurate compared to their Russian counterpart.
 
I also have a 336 marlin, it was given to me by my grandfather when he quit hunting. It is a 1969 vintage, and wears a steel tube 4x weaver scope. If I do my part is will clover leaf 5 shots @ 100yds. It will always reside in my safe, as grandpa has been gone almost 4 years now.
 
I have shot AR's in .223 and 300BLK, AR-10's in .308, AK's 7.62x39 and a few more. None of those weapons or cartridges excited me like my $387 Walmart Marlin 336 in 30-30.

It is just a fine arm. Accurate, even with peep sights. I put a scout scope rail on it with a Nikon 2x scout scope ...and WOW.

The diversity of loads and bullets you can get is amazing. I could not do justice to giving you an explanation but, considering that Hornady claims that its 160gr LE round will deliver 1000 ft lbs at 300 yards, I just do not see why *I* would need anything else.

I am just getting into reloading, and so, the fact that I can use a variety of .308 bullets, which are easy to find, inexpensive, is just great. The 30-30 cartridge seems easy to reload.

Personally, I like a rifle to be sleek. The AR and AK platform seems very clunky to me (it probably is a superior format for combat, but I did not buy this carbine for that purpose).

Maybe I am old fashioned. I like 1911's too. But, there is something to be said for a classic design that has stood out for over 100 years. It just works and works great.

Part of my decision was driven by the desire to get a carbine for hunting with friends. Collectively, it was decided that the .223 was not desirable. At that point, THEY went in the direction of the 300BLK (since they were already pretty heavily invested in the AR platform). They each have well over $1000 invested in each AR they have and tried their best to get me to follow.

When I compare the ballistics of the 30-30 with the 300BLK and 7.62x39, there was no question it was a very capable cartridge, perhaps superior. Low recoil and can take any game in NA ....it leaves nothing to be desired.

Another thing I like....able to find commercially available lower recoil loads for introducing women to shooting it.

A good friend found an old Winchester 94 for about $300. Jealous.
 
They are an abomination, and totally unnecessary on a lever gun!!

Though I'm a "traditionalist" in most things related to firearms, I have no problem in terms of the aesthetics or otherwise with a crossbolt safety (or a tang mounted one for that matter) on a lever-action rifle. They may not be "necessary" on a lever gun but some folks might actually prefer them over the "traditional" hammer set-up.
 
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Here's my 3 Marlins..... 2 30-30's... 336A (belonged to my dad/he bought it off his brother) and my first deer rifle 336C....... great guns, solid top for easy mounting of scope. Third one's a 39a 22 lever action......

My dad bought his off his brother for a case a bear, it dates to 1946. Mine I bought at Jamesway for $79.99 in 1977..... the 39a was made the same year I was born in 1966.......
 
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Aside from what "RCMODEL" said, having shot both, there's nothing to compare to shooting a TRUE American classic. And if you're a Mil-surp fan, the Winchester '94 in .30WCF (.30-30) falls into that category too. It was used in WW1 by the "Spruce Guard" in the Pacific North West to guard timber harvesting operations that cut timber to manufacture military aircraft.
 
I like the look and feel of Marlin's 336BL, but I have heard about quality issues with current production Marlins. Anyone here have issues with a newer Marlin rifle?
 
The 30-30 can shoot much heavier loads than the 7.62x39. 150 and 170 loads are the common factory loads. Buffalo Bore makes a powerful 190 grain load and Hornady has the 160 LE loads. The Buffalo Bore would be my choice for Elk or Moose. Neither really should be hunted with 7.62x39.

Plus carrying a 30-30 hunting is much easier IMO than a military rifle. I just think that given the right load and hunter that a Win 94 or Marlin 336 or similar lever can take any North American game under the right conditions. The SKS just isn't as verstile.
 
I bought mine for $150 back in the late 70s. I like that you can carry with an empty chamber and lever the gun as it hits the shoulder. Safe, yet fairly quick. I'm considering a Lyman tang sight for a better sight picture and for cool points. The open sight would still be there for when the tang sight's folded down and a quick shot is needed.

The Win 94 is one of John Moses Browning's designs and is not seen as threatening by people who have been around guns at all. Instead of "assault weapon," it would be described as "rifle" or "deer gun" by many people. It may fly under the radar in some jurisdictions that restrict semiautos.

In addition to using a wider variety of bullet weights, the 1894 can be "topped up" while you're still ready to take a shot. If you find a long-barreled one, you could load subsonic rounds for a much quieter shot: for pest elimination or small game near the home or camp.

The Winchester '94 a classic design, and it's lasted so long because it works! I have nothing against the SKS and other 7.62x39mm arms, but I like the .30-30 better.

All my best,
Dirty Bob
 
I am partial to the Marlin rifles. Have A few. This 30-30 is A favorite. 336 SC cut to 16"
 

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For me, the "Trapper" model 94 Winchester in 30-30 is the perfect rifle for roaming the woods, it's much lighter, more handy and unlike an SKS, capable of normal function even with low velocity, cast bullet, small game loads.

While I'm not a big believer in scopes on traditional lever actions, a good receiver or tang sight is a huge help in attaining better accuracy than the traditional buckhorn sights offer.
 
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