I was thinking about Blackhawks today and remembered they used to make one in 30 carbine. Decided to check my literature to see if there was a premium on these just for the heck of it. I discovered it was a .357- 30 carbine combo revolver. How in the world does that work? A 30 carbine bullet rattiling down a .357 barrel.
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Eh? What's your source on that convertible information?
To my knowledge, Ruger makes convertibles in .22/.22Mag (Single Six), and 9mm/.357Mag (Blackhawk). I have also seen a Vaquero .45 Colt/.45 ACP.
In all of these calibers, the bullet diameter is the same, or *very* slightly different. In 9mm/.357, for instance, you're looking at .355 vs. .357, so only .002" difference.
The Carbine is a .308, so it would make no sense to also fire a .357 through it.
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To my knowledge, Ruger makes convertibles in .22/.22Mag (Single Six), and 9mm/.357Mag (Blackhawk). I have also seen a Vaquero .45 Colt/.45 ACP.
In all of these calibers, the bullet diameter is the same, or *very* slightly different. In 9mm/.357, for instance, you're looking at .355 vs. .357, so only .002" difference.
The Carbine is a .308, so it would make no sense to also fire a .357 through it.
John
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Not sure about the conversion, but what the hey, there has been stranger mistakes before.
I have actually fired the .30 Carbine Blackhawk. It rattles your teeth. Its not a boom, not really a bang. Its a very high pitched tinny biang (? closest sound I could come to) that rattles your individual back bones and teeth. Gave me a headache with hearing protection on (even with ear plugs and mufflers).
But,
Man was it fun! It was superbly accurate and a hoot to shoot. I had only wished we had a chrono to find out any velocity drop (not much Im guessing due to a straight case and light bullet weight?).
I have actually fired the .30 Carbine Blackhawk. It rattles your teeth. Its not a boom, not really a bang. Its a very high pitched tinny biang (? closest sound I could come to) that rattles your individual back bones and teeth. Gave me a headache with hearing protection on (even with ear plugs and mufflers).
But,
Man was it fun! It was superbly accurate and a hoot to shoot. I had only wished we had a chrono to find out any velocity drop (not much Im guessing due to a straight case and light bullet weight?).
I remember reading about the noise from Panco Kelly, who seemed to like it for longer-range handgun varminting.
http://www.sixguns.com/tests/tt30carb.htm
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_12_47/ai_79586230
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http://www.sixguns.com/tests/tt30carb.htm
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_12_47/ai_79586230
John
Ok, first no such convertable. Look at the cylinder frame and you'll see what it is suppoed to be. My guess is at some point someobe confused cylinders. This could be VERY bad if the 9mm cylinder is in the .30 carbine frame and is loaded and fired. BAD!
hat all said, the .30 carbine BH is a blast - literally - to shoot. I love mine. It's loud but ear protection should be warn anyways when shooting. Very accuarte though even with cheap bulk ammo. Local shop has two used ones and I'm considering another just because.
hat all said, the .30 carbine BH is a blast - literally - to shoot. I love mine. It's loud but ear protection should be warn anyways when shooting. Very accuarte though even with cheap bulk ammo. Local shop has two used ones and I'm considering another just because.
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The 32-20 WCF is the same with hot loads.
I predict a lot of unhappy campers when those 3" Ruger SP101 .327 Magnums hit the streets!
Those things should set your hair on fire!
The one .30 Carbine Ruger I had for awhile would sometimes break a small ring of brass off of the case mouth and stick it in the front of a chamber. Only just a tiny thin ring, but enough to prevent another round from chambering.
Real PITA to get it out too.
Never did figure that deal out before I traded it for something else!
rcmodel
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My Dad had one years ago.
I just gave away 200 pcs. of unprimed brass and some speer bullets and several rounds of .30 cal. carbine ammo just last week.
I just gave away 200 pcs. of unprimed brass and some speer bullets and several rounds of .30 cal. carbine ammo just last week.
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*Sigh*
Walked away from a .30 Carbine BH last year. Good price, too.
Having read various reviews of various pistols in .30 Carbine, I figured the thing would never get to the range, and if I tried to use it in the "heat of the moment" it would wreck my hearing.
Talked with a couple of gunsmiths about it, including my current smith (who loves M1 Carbines). Consensus seems to be that, given the size and shape of the cartridge, and that it looks like a pistol cartridge, some companies just had to try making a pistol for it.
It's not a pistol cartridge, despite its looking like a cross between a 9mm and a .357, only skinnier. The load "expects" to be fired from a long barrel and, when fired from a short barrel, the powder -- lots of it -- is still burning as the bullet exits the muzzle.
Daylight-visible fireball. Sonic concussion.
Guess when I get my Blackhawk, it'll be a .357 mag.
Walked away from a .30 Carbine BH last year. Good price, too.
Having read various reviews of various pistols in .30 Carbine, I figured the thing would never get to the range, and if I tried to use it in the "heat of the moment" it would wreck my hearing.
Talked with a couple of gunsmiths about it, including my current smith (who loves M1 Carbines). Consensus seems to be that, given the size and shape of the cartridge, and that it looks like a pistol cartridge, some companies just had to try making a pistol for it.
It's not a pistol cartridge, despite its looking like a cross between a 9mm and a .357, only skinnier. The load "expects" to be fired from a long barrel and, when fired from a short barrel, the powder -- lots of it -- is still burning as the bullet exits the muzzle.
Daylight-visible fireball. Sonic concussion.
Guess when I get my Blackhawk, it'll be a .357 mag.
My gun is less sticky if you use quality ammo in it, ie. Winchester instead of Armscor which sticks like crazy. You sometimes have to pound out the empties with a stiff rod and a mallet.
Also keep the chambers clean and dry or maybe have a gunsmith polish them up a bit.
Also keep the chambers clean and dry or maybe have a gunsmith polish them up a bit.
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I use too shoot with an ole' timer, who was a Ruger .30 caliber carbine freak;
with a trunk full of guns, he preferred that old Ruger. It was "flashy" and very
loud too say the least; but he could hit a pine tree swinging target every time
from 80 to 120 yards away. The old gentleman even had a cowboy handle
called:
ROOSTER~!
with a trunk full of guns, he preferred that old Ruger. It was "flashy" and very
loud too say the least; but he could hit a pine tree swinging target every time
from 80 to 120 yards away. The old gentleman even had a cowboy handle
called:
ROOSTER~!
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