.30 Carbine Blackhawk Anecdote

[rcmodel]

All I know is, that's the way my old ears hear them!!

But after a half gazillion rounds of GI heavy ordinance with no ear protection 45 years ago?

I can't hear in a crowd, and certain high frequencies hurt me anymore.
Oh, and my ears ring 24/7.

I suppose everyone's hearing varies, depending on how many explosions you have had next to you that made your ears bleed?

rc

 

[jski]

One other issue, I use an RCBS carbide sizing die and have had NO problems resizing my 30 carbine brass.

 

[Crayfish]

A 5" SP101? Did you mean GP100?

 

[natman]

1st, let me restate what I stated above, the .30 carbine Blackhawk, even with factory loads is not as loud as my Ruger GP-100 with .357 loads ... Period.

I think if you reread your prior posts carefully you'll find you never mentioned shooting with factory loads.

I know from personal experience that on a range where full house 357s are commonplace, having someone fire a 30 Carbine Blackhawk stood out as a memorable experience, in a "Holy smokes? what was THAT??!?!" kind of way.

2nd, the case length of the .30 carbine is the exact same as the .357 mag, 41 mag, 44 mag, and the .45 Colt. So calling it "long" is nonsense. Again, the .30 carbine is NOTHING but a .308 mag pistol cartridge ... Period.

I agree with you there. Perhaps it's something about firing a magnum load through the smaller bore that makes the sound so distinctive.

 

[jski]

1st, yep, l meant the 5" Ruger GP100.

It's been awhile since I was at an indoor range, but at my outdoor range it's not as noticeable as the 357. And the folks next to me seem to agree. Though usually, I shoot 38's out of my GP100.

 

[kBob]

I got great news, rc. My last trip to the VA they told me my hearing from inside the cab 109 series 155 Gun Howitzers going off and standing there next to 8 inch guns and M102 105 GH pulling lanyards, Hanging on to Ma Dueces spades while dancing with her, resting my head on the M67 90mm Recoiless when it screams, getting the old belt vibrator treatment form the M-60 Hawg, snapping away with the M-16A1, M-1 Carbine, M-1 Rifle and M-14, thumping with the 1911A1, and being entirely too close to Mark II, M26 and M33 party favors and Mr. Claymore, TNT, Military dynamite, and C4 has miraculously gone from a less than 10 percent disability (only benefit is move to the front of the non related line) to within "Normal" hearing ranges.....and as I get older!

Amazing! A magical event has occurred!

Oddly , across the street at a University Hospital a month later and with out them knowing my history one of the highest rated Hearing labs in the country announced I had severe hearing loss and asked if I had a history of being around artillery and explosives.

Wow, go figure.

When last I was around, as in next to, my buddy shooting with his .30 Carbine BH, it hurt my sinuses and teeth.......but was nothing next to a Charge 8 (" I SEE RED")155 round from the right of the gun in the little cubby where one checks "site".

-kBob

 

[robhof]

robhof

The other auto pistol in 30 carbine was the Wildy, their 450 mag was made famous in a Bronson movie, but they came in a variety of calibers. The reason for the loudness of the surplus ammo is they use rifle powder, slower burning so much is burned outside of the barrel in a pistol, hence the great flash. I've got a 357 Max and it's definitely louder than a 44 mag but using about the same amount of powder, but in a longer case.

 

[rcmodel]

The GI ammo actually didn't use 'rifle' powder.

Hodgdon H-110 actually started out as surplus .30 Carbine powder Bruce Hodgdon bought as surplus after WWII.

WC820 ball powder was later used, which is very similar to current H-110 / W-296 load data.

rc

 

[jski]

Has anyone experienced a 327 fed mag? Because it produces 45,000 psi and above.

 

[FROGO207]

I own a pair of those lil beasties. You do tend to attract attention at the range when shooting USGI tracer ammo. I nicknamed them my flame throwers. I have down loaded them using lead bullets and red dot to 32 long equivalent loads. Those loads are much better IMHO and shoot to point of aim for me.

 

[jski]

A pair of ... ? .30 Carbine Blackhawks? 327 Mag Blackhawks?

 

[FROGO207]

A pair of 30 Carbine ones. Actually I own a Single six and fourteen centerfire Blackhawks in various calibers and barrel lengths.

 

[Bearnut]

My reloading books show some very impressive velocities for the .30 Carbine loads in a Blackhawk revolver.