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Thanks for your report. Accuracy isn't really the goal here. If I could hit plates at 20ish yards that'd be good enough. Handgun accuracy in other words.
Use Lyman's loads for cast lead bullets with pistol powder.
You can get lead bullets for M1 carbine cheap and easy.
With or without polymer coating. Cost way less than jacketed bullets.
The standard warning from decades ago using Lyman pistol powder loads with jacketed bullets:
A jacketed bullet (supposedly) can be stuck in the bore, because it has more friction than lead.
Lead bullet data are just tested for lead bullets, not jacketed. Use with lead bullets only.
I can't swear it's true, that's just what they said in days past.
It was always the standard warning, and might still be valid. I can't swear to it.
I assume the load would not cycle the [Garand] action.Random-8 said:...M1 in the back yard. Swapped out OP-rods for and out of spec one for this so as not to chance damaging an operational rod...
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No cycling, made it a bolt action Garand. Probably would have been fine, but having already replaced one rod damaged by a supposedly Garand safe load with BL-C2, I was taking no chances with experimental ammunition and the NOS rod I paid a pretty penny for.I assume the load would not cycle the [Garand] action.
Given that, would there have been cause to worry about the Op Rod ?
As I noted in my post in this thread, I tried this without very good results. At max load for this bullet with the powder I was using, a shooting buddy noted the bullets were exploding in air in a "puff of smoke" several yards in front of the rifle. The 30 Carbine bullets have too thin a jacket to handle the spin imparted by the 1 in 10" barrel twist of a 30-06 at the velocity a 30-06 can produce. A lot of folks have noted the use of Trail Boss which would produce much reduced velocities. However, I'm still wondering if the Carbine bullets could handle the faster twist even at reduced velocities. I may give it a try as I have a supply of 110 gr. 30 Carbine bullets I have no other use for. It will only cost me a can of Trail Boss and some primers, but experimentation is half the fun.I like trailboss for this kind of stuff
On a side note, one of the guys I shoot pistol with in the winter told me he loads 110 grain 30 carbine bullets in his 30-06 loaded to 3600 FPS as a varmint load Hard to believe they wouldn't spin apart at that speed, but thats what I was told.
I have also tried this just for fun. Running a carbine bullet, as well as the 110 gr Vmax to near max speeds in a .308 when my wife was new to shooting rifles and getting used to recoil. Both held together to 100 yards, but that was as far as we tried them. Accuracy was decent, in the 2" range, and I never tried tweaking the loads for accuracy. The carbine bullet I used was the Rem 110 (if memory serves). Expansion was quite violent with either on soft targets such as water jugs and old pumpkins.As I noted in my post in this thread, I tried this without very good results. At max load for this bullet with the powder I was using, a shooting buddy noted the bullets were exploding in air in a "puff of smoke" several yards in front of the rifle. The 30 Carbine bullets have too thin a jacket to handle the spin imparted by the 1 in 10" barrel twist of a 30-06 at the velocity a 30-06 can produce. A lot of folks have noted the use of Trail Boss which would produce much reduced velocities. However, I'm still wondering if the Carbine bullets could handle the faster twist even at reduced velocities. I may give it a try as I have a supply of 110 gr. 30 Carbine bullets I have no other use for. It will only cost me a can of Trail Boss and some primers, but experimentation is half the fun.
It's a private range and the backstop is rated for .50BMG.
Macgrumpy brings up an interesting point. I hadn't considered bullet construction. However if .30 Carbine bullets are fine when fired from .30 Carbines at 1900-2000fps I don't see why they wouldn't be fine fired at similar velocities from .30-06, assuming that is possible. Maybe I'll buy some lead ones or actually start casting. You think wheel weights would break up proper-like?
Sorry, I thought I saw 200 yards. Yea 20 is a whole different animal.Thanks but 2200 is too fast for steel up close.