30 Carbine loads wanted

[mstreddy]

Hello, I'm going to load 30 Carbine some time soon and want to use a powder that I can use with my other rifles or handguns as well to minimize the amount of powders I have to stock. What powder do you all recommend from the ones I'm currently using or that will work in at least one other caliber of the listed ones? I'm planning on using 110 Gr FMJ or some LRN if I can find a good (cheap) source. This will be for plinking ammo, so not concerned with hunting performance. It will be shot from an Inland and a commercial Universal carbine.
Currently I'm loading for the following calibers/powders combinations:
Rifles
223/5.56 BLC(2)
308 BLC(2), RL-15
30-30 RL-15
30-06 RL-15
6.5x55 Swede RL-15, RL-19
Plan on - 300 WM RL-19
Plan on 7.62x39, 7.62x54R, .303 Brit, 8mm Mauser and 7.5x55 some time in the future as I build up my boxer brass stocks for them.

Handguns
9mm, 40 S&W, 45ACP, 38 Super, 38 Spcl -- all have good recipes with W231
Plan to load 357 Mag -- need to come up with some loads for as well.
45 Colt -- same...
7.62x25 for a CZ-52
I'm not currently using Unique, but have in the past, and I'm O.K. with adding it back to the shelf.

So what do you all experts suggest?

/Eddy

 

[Sport45]

W296/H-110 work well in the carbine as well as magnum pistol. I've had good luck with Ramshot Enforcer in those too.

I don't know of any "rifle" powder that would work well in the .30 Carbine.

 

[mokin]

W296 and H-110 work great. Not too many rifle powders will work that I'm aware of. Be sure to trim the cases and start low and work your way up. I found that accuracy tends to deteriorate quickly if the loads get very hot.

 

[jcwit]

12 1/2 grains of 4227 behind a 100 grain rd nose cast bullet. Cast from my Lee mould and lubed with my own lube. Good accuracy, no leading.

 

[56hawk]

Like everyone else mentioned H-110 works great. I found the starting loads work just fine in my M1 carbine (WWII IBM). It's also a good powder for full power 357 loads.

 

[greyling22]

you can also use 2400 in carbine and 357. I think I once saw some carbine loads using blue dot as well. I'm currently using h110 and a 120 grn lead bullet in my m1.

 

[USSR]

2400 and 4227 are good .30 Carbine powders that will equally well in your .357 Magnum and .45 Colt loads.

Don

 

[SHR970]

Your choices are quite limited with this caliber due to the size and placement of the gas port.

4227, 2400, 296 / H110, AA#9, AA 1680, Lil Gun, Enforcer, and maybe one day you'll see some 410 / 4100 powders listed. Fortunately, these powders also will give you the top end performance levels for the 357.

AA#9 also has load data available for the 7.62x25.

 

[mookiie]

Mine loves 13.8 grrns win 296 and 110 grn RN bullet. I also use win 296 for 357 loads.

 

[ssyoumans]

Win 296 is the classic powder for 30 Carbine. Meters great, works very well in both.

For 357 Mag, W296 is a great FULL charge powder. It is recommended by the manufacturer that you don't download it by more than 3% or so. So, it isn't real flexible in 357 magnum.

If you want a really good powder for both, and want some added flexibility for 357 magnum, try 2400. With it, you can load the 357 across a wider range of velocities and still get top performance out of both calibers. 2400 meters very well too.

296 requires a magnum small pistol primer in 357 Mag.
2400 is fine with a standard small pistol primer in 357 Mag.

In 30 Carbine, Small Rifle is fine for both. Some will say you have to have a Mag rifle primer for the 30 carbine, but you do not. A small rifle standard primer has the same burn intensity as a small pistol Magnum primer. You must use a rifle primer in the 30 Carbine because you want a thicker primer cup to prevent slam fires.

Happy shooting!

 

[mstreddy]

All, thanks for the replies. Now, let me see what I can pick up locally. SSYOumans, I appreciate the input on the range of loads for the 2400 in 357Mag. SHR thanks for the ref on 7.62x25. USSR and others --- thanks for the inputs.

This forum is one of the best -- I can always count on the help you folks provide.

Eddy M

 

[velocette]

mstreddy;
When you go shopping for powder, W296 and H110 are exactly the same powder.
Check their prices, I've found as much as $5.00 per lb difference between them on the dealers shelf.
W 296 / H110 is the original powder for the M1 carbine and has been the suggested powder for years. 14 ~ 15 grains / 110 gr jacketed bullet. Small rifle primer.
Make absolutely certain that you trim your cases after sizing them. The .30 carbine headspaces on the case mouth. If your cases are too long, you can get out of battery firing with VERY nasty results.

Roger

 

[kludge]

I'd go with 2400. Works great in .30 Carbine and .357 Mag. And I don't have to stock magnum pistol primers.

 

[SlicLee]

M1 carbine

Go online-GOOGLE Hodgdon reloading data go to web site for information thats accurate learn to ignore most online load data from anyone you dont know well!

 

[Husker_Fan]

Like many have said, W296/H110, whichever is cheaper. It works great. My rifle shoots most accurately with 14.2-14.5 grains of powder.

I load quite a few of the Remington 110grn SP bullets and have been very happy. I wouldn't mind finding something cheaper though.

 

[Galil5.56]

15/15.5 grains WW296 or H110, CCI 450, Hornady 100 grain SJ.

 

[Maj Dad]

Wc820

If you run across any surplus WC820, it is equivalent to 296/110. I bought 8 lbs of it several years ago & this particular lot is labeled 10% faster than 296/110 so I reduce the charge by that. Works out to ~13.5 gr, and it shoots great in 3 carbines. I also use it for full power 357 & 44 mag it is outstanding in them as well. I haven't looked lately, but Jeff Bartlett. Pat's Reloading and a few others carry surplus powders - might be worth a look.

 

[mstreddy]

All, Thanks for the many replies and great info. I picked up a pound of 2400 at my LGS yesterday. Waiting on some MBC 158gr LSWC to come in and the 357 Mag loads will be started. Have everything ready for 30 Carbine, so will load up some next week.

Again, Thanks!
EM