30 M1 carbine brass and carbide dies.

[Fatelvis]

Ive heard that even know you may have carbide M1 carbine dies, you still MUST use lube. Just now, I read an old article on IAI`s carbines, and it states that it is a good idea to use the carbide dies, as they eliminate the need to lube. Which is correct? Thanx-

 

[Sisco]

Lube is a really good idea. I believe the instructions that came with my dies recommended lubing at least every 3rd or 4th case. Even then it sometimes felt like they were going to stick.
I use RCBS spray lube and lube them all now.

 

[PaulS]

fatelvis,
The problem with using lube with carbide dies is that it will hold grit that can scratch the die. MOST carbide die makers recommend using cleaned dry cases without lube. That is the way I use mine and after 30 years they still work fine and have no marring at all. I have never felt the need to lube as they operate smoothly with little effort.

PaulS

 

[Fatelvis]

Thanks guys. I just called RCBS and they told me that normally no lube is needed with a carbide die, but the M1 carbine die has a longer than normal Carbide bearing surface, and they suggest lubing about every tenth round, while sizing. That place has SUPER customer assistance. Got an answer in about 30 seconds after dialing the phone! Thanks again-

 

[Paul "Fitz" Jones]

Carbide and Clean brass

I have been loading for a few years and always tumble clean my brass before loading in a hand operated progressive or automated reloader. There are times when loading quite a few thousand rounds that I decided to reduce the resistance a bit in my Star Loader on long .44Mag or 45 Long Colt cases and I used a "Q" tip with a bit of automotive STP to coat inside the die. But the brass was already clean. Regarding 30 M1 carbine I have a new never used Original Star in 30 carbine but since It has never been used I can't advise you. As a Survivalist many years ago I bought the Star, thousands of GI and Civilian brass, Some 4 cavity bullet molds for it but never got around to using all that stuff.

Cleanliness preserves the value of your equipment.

Dry Moly if breathed is worse than Asbestos in your lungs.
Our bullet luber designs were invented when soft greases, candle wax, bees wax and animal fat were the common ingredients for bullet lubricants.

John Paul