300 Weatherby
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One of the best calibers ever. 130gr. to 220gr. bullets. Will take anything in North America and most anything elsewhere. It really shines at distance. I have it in a Weatherby Mark V rifle and it has never let me down. Check out the ballistics and compare it to others to get an idea.
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"Like what?"
Like in Mongolia, for example, for the big sheep. The Sudan in Africa, for tough to hunt trophys like bongo, or Ethiopia for mountain nyala etc, etc,etc. Didn't mean to imply that Keith, O'Connor et al. weren't dedicated hunters, but their resources, scope and quests were nowhere that of just the three hunters I named.
"Like what?"
Like in Mongolia, for example, for the big sheep. The Sudan in Africa, for tough to hunt trophys like bongo, or Ethiopia for mountain nyala etc, etc,etc. Didn't mean to imply that Keith, O'Connor et al. weren't dedicated hunters, but their resources, scope and quests were nowhere that of just the three hunters I named.
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"Shooting sheep in Mongolia doesn't prove anything about a caliber that shooting goats in the Rockies doesn't. It just means you're in Mongolia."
Please try to stay on the subject. We're discussing the .300 Wby Mag and and I named a few legandary hunters who used it with great success. It's reasonable to conclude that they knew what they were doing. Why does that bother you?
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"Shooting sheep in Mongolia doesn't prove anything about a caliber that shooting goats in the Rockies doesn't. It just means you're in Mongolia."
Please try to stay on the subject. We're discussing the .300 Wby Mag and and I named a few legandary hunters who used it with great success. It's reasonable to conclude that they knew what they were doing. Why does that bother you?
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Hunting game around the world is more about stamina than skills.Most that hunt game in other countries do it with a guide(local skills).I am more impressed with a local hunter making great shots over a guided hunt,than someone setting up your shot.Practice makes perfect.
It doesn't. I'm surprised at your response. The cartridge didn't have to go all the way to Mongolia to prove that it works, that's all. It worked in the Sierra Nevada, too.
The .300 Weatherby is known to be a good caliber. The time for arguing about that was before I was born.
Like any caliber, it's a tradeoff between recoil, trajectory, effective range, rifle weight, etc. For some purposes, it's optimal.
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"Shooting sheep in Mongolia doesn't prove anything about a caliber that shooting goats in the Rockies doesn't. It just means you're in Mongolia."
Whatever you say is fine with me. I've never hunted sheep in Mongolia, and you didn't say if you have either. But it seems reasonable to me that it's wise to recognize the experience of hunters who have and acknowledge their choices of rifles and calibers. But apparently you don't see this way. Again, fine with me. But, come to think of it, can you name more experienced hunters than the few I did? Perhaps they will have useful imput about .300 Wby Mag. I don't even have a .300 Wby Mag, never owned one, and only shot one a few times, so don't have a dog in this fight. Do you? Come to think of it, you mentioned Keith and O'connor, and others, earlier. But what do they have to do with subject of .300 Wby? Is there something about them and .300 Wby that bugs you? Or should I not ask?
"Shooting sheep in Mongolia doesn't prove anything about a caliber that shooting goats in the Rockies doesn't. It just means you're in Mongolia."
Whatever you say is fine with me. I've never hunted sheep in Mongolia, and you didn't say if you have either. But it seems reasonable to me that it's wise to recognize the experience of hunters who have and acknowledge their choices of rifles and calibers. But apparently you don't see this way. Again, fine with me. But, come to think of it, can you name more experienced hunters than the few I did? Perhaps they will have useful imput about .300 Wby Mag. I don't even have a .300 Wby Mag, never owned one, and only shot one a few times, so don't have a dog in this fight. Do you? Come to think of it, you mentioned Keith and O'connor, and others, earlier. But what do they have to do with subject of .300 Wby? Is there something about them and .300 Wby that bugs you? Or should I not ask?
Uh, I already said. Some experienced hunters have liked a bigger bullet, some like a smaller one.
No. I already said that, too.
It's you that seems to be bugged about something, not me.
I happen to think that Roy Weatherby's idea of a gunstock is a very good one, too. I like Weatherby rifles, and .300 Wby is the caliber that dominates the breed.
I know a guy with a wall covered with mounts, from Africa and other places. He swears by the 7x57mm Ackley Improved. I'm sure it's a great round, also. I don't currently own a .300 Weatherby or a 7x57mm of any sort, but both are on my consideration list. But then again I may get neither, ever. Can't say. .257 Wby has been sounding kinda good...
I'm really not getting what your problem is with what I've posted.
+1 on what Geno said
On a 24" barrel the 300 Wby is almost a ballistic twin of the 300 Win Mag (same barrel length) but much more expensive to shoot (ammo or powder & brass if you are a reloader)
The Weatherby rounds really shine on longer barrels...if you are dead set on getting a 300 Wby, buy a Mark V.
On the practical side of things, there is absolutely nothing a $1000+ Mark V 300 Wby can do that a $399 Weatherby Vanguard in 300 Win Mag cannot do too.....significantly cheaper (rifle and ammo).....
Bear in mind that all the super 300 Magnums bring to the table compared to the good old 30-06 is gaining a bit extra of point blank range (with much increased muzzle blast)...they do not really allow you to "escalate" in the type of hunting game compared to the Springfield round.
On a 24" barrel the 300 Wby is almost a ballistic twin of the 300 Win Mag (same barrel length) but much more expensive to shoot (ammo or powder & brass if you are a reloader)
The Weatherby rounds really shine on longer barrels...if you are dead set on getting a 300 Wby, buy a Mark V.
On the practical side of things, there is absolutely nothing a $1000+ Mark V 300 Wby can do that a $399 Weatherby Vanguard in 300 Win Mag cannot do too.....significantly cheaper (rifle and ammo).....
Bear in mind that all the super 300 Magnums bring to the table compared to the good old 30-06 is gaining a bit extra of point blank range (with much increased muzzle blast)...they do not really allow you to "escalate" in the type of hunting game compared to the Springfield round.
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Well there it is.....
If your going to drive a 300WBY, then you really should use at least a 26" tube.
So many folks sport a big ol' fire snorting magnum with a shorter than optimum barrel!
It's like the 700BDL in 7mmREM MAG with its 22" barrel....why? Another 4" or even 2" of barrel would offer great benifits, but people mush over an extra 2" much less an extra 4".
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I just checked 300 WM and 257WM ammo prices.Cabela's has the best prices that I could find.Any one know of a cheaper ammo dealer? Cabela has the 257 BST for 54.99 on sale!
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I have a custom 300 wby and love it shoot it. I really don't think the kick is that bad. I don't use it for the little eastern shore deere cause it can damage to much meat if my shot placement isent correct. In the wood its 30-30 in the open its a 30-06 or 308. If I'm lucky enough to go to Main with my brother in law some day he recommends I bring the 300.
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pwillie, I really was asking what fir hunting was! Just to set the record straight, had I known it was a typo, I wouldn't have asked. My house has way too much glass to be throwing stones!
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I am SO glad you asked if he had heard of the .30-378. Yes, he sold that .300 Wea Mag to my nephew-in-law and bought himself a .30-378. He never could get the same velocities out of it that he did the .300 Wea Mag. He ended up selling it after the first deer season and bought a new .300 Wea Mag.
For my part, after being disassembled in a accident in which 5 vehicles were totaled, and (now) 45 surgeries, I settled back into a Mark V with .300 Win Mag. No, it's not as-fast, or won't fire as-flat as the .300 Wea Mag, but ammo is 50% the cost.
That doesn't mean I don't have tremendous respect for the Weatherby magnums.
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I am SO glad you asked if he had heard of the .30-378. Yes, he sold that .300 Wea Mag to my nephew-in-law and bought himself a .30-378. He never could get the same velocities out of it that he did the .300 Wea Mag. He ended up selling it after the first deer season and bought a new .300 Wea Mag.
For my part, after being disassembled in a accident in which 5 vehicles were totaled, and (now) 45 surgeries, I settled back into a Mark V with .300 Win Mag. No, it's not as-fast, or won't fire as-flat as the .300 Wea Mag, but ammo is 50% the cost.
That doesn't mean I don't have tremendous respect for the Weatherby magnums.
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He must have been triple stomping powder in those cases to surpass the velocity of the larger round.
Sorry to hear of your misfortune and you know you won't be to underguned with the WinMag.
I am a fan and infected with Magnumitis as some call it but they don't consume all my interests.
Best wishes for your recovery.
Sorry to hear of your misfortune and you know you won't be to underguned with the WinMag.
I am a fan and infected with Magnumitis as some call it but they don't consume all my interests.
Best wishes for your recovery.
Thanks for the very kind words, X-Rap! It has been a long road! I have a had a literally world-class medical team that put me back together. They all shoot, and had me get to the range as much as possible. Too bad they would not write a script for the bullets.
And now, I return you to your previously scheduled topic.
Yes, he was using two different powders...insane isn't it?!?! He would compress the AA3100, then he would add another powder (which I will not disclose for fear someone will try to replicate the load). Then, he compressed that, and seated the projectile.
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And now, I return you to your previously scheduled topic.
Yes, he was using two different powders...insane isn't it?!?! He would compress the AA3100, then he would add another powder (which I will not disclose for fear someone will try to replicate the load). Then, he compressed that, and seated the projectile.
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My 300 has less kick than a 30-06...
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"He would compress the AA3100, then he would add another powder (which I will not disclose for fear someone will try to replicate the load). Then, he compressed that, and seated the projectile."
Ah ha the old duplex load trick! Actually I used to write to Elmer Keith as an adolescent and he would respond and tell me of Triplex loads in the .44 spl and other Duplex loads in things like the .300H&H and the .318 Westley Richards ! They always claimed BIG velocities but said you had to keep the cartridges from being shaken after compressed loaded, like nitro!
Ah ha the old duplex load trick! Actually I used to write to Elmer Keith as an adolescent and he would respond and tell me of Triplex loads in the .44 spl and other Duplex loads in things like the .300H&H and the .318 Westley Richards ! They always claimed BIG velocities but said you had to keep the cartridges from being shaken after compressed loaded, like nitro!
So you heard of it too? Those loads always scared me half to death! I always expected the bolt to blow out back, or the barrel off the front. When he loaded Norma brass that way, it never blew out, but it so expanded the primer pocket that when he opened the bolt to take the cartridge out, the primers would fall out. Pick up an expended piece of brass from the grass, and there would be no primer. That got him to order the stainless steel bases.
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