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300yard gun

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by tigersfan, Oct 12, 2012.

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  1. tigersfan

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    Looking for a long range gun, flat shooting, any suggestions on which brand/model? In $500-700 range. With weathershield, Thinking tc venture, model 70 winchester, and a couple others. Maybe .308, 7mm..08, 300 mag. Any input appreciated, thanks.
     
  2. joed

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    I'm a Winchester fan, tough to beat their model 70.
     
  3. GhostRanger

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    Please go a little farther in depth as to what this weapon will be used for. It it is target shooting at 300 yards then a .223 will do just fine. If you are hunting then you may want the calibers that you listed above but a .243 will do just fine hitting a deer out at 300 yards as well.
     
  4. tigersfan

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    Mostly for deer hunting, hunt both fields and woods, so I am leaning towards a .308 . Also because ammo is cheap and easy to find.

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  5. mdauben

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    If you are looking for a hunting rifle (which the mention of weathershield might indicate) honesly any of the major manufactures produce guns capable of hunting accuracy out to 300 yards and anything caliber from .243 up to .30-06 will work in that range. Personally, I'd consider .300 mag overkill for unless you are looking beyond 300 yards. I'd say either .308 or 7mm-08 would make a good choice for deer sized game.
     
  6. tigersfan

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    Also thinking about tc dimension, anyone try them out yet?

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  7. Sam1911

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    It's kind of hard to narrow things down based on that. I'd be very surprised if there was a model of bolt-action sporting rifle made today, chambered in almost any cartridge north of .223 Rem that wouldn't reliably kill a deer at 300 yards. That's not a terribly long shot and most hunters should be capable of learning to make reliable hits out that far with fairly basic, inexpensive rifle and scope, and factory ammo.

    (That's not to say most hunters in the field can make that shot. But they could learn to do so with a bit of practice.)
     
  8. GhostRanger

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    .308 is a good versatile round. It will do the trick out to 600+ yards depending on the shooter and as you say the ammo is easy to find. Also don't forget the tried and true 30-06 which is a little up from the .308 and ammo is just as easy to find. The .300 Win-Mag is a hell of a round and 300 yards is on the short side for it. You would not be using it to its fullest potential at that range.

    As to a rifle itself I am partial to the Remington 700. But that is just my $.02
     
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    Maybe a Tikka T3 in 7mm-08? I own a Tikka in .204 Ruger and had the opportunity to shoot one in a 7mm-08 last year. The recoil is nearly negligible, yet it still packs some punch out there. 300yrds might be stretching it, but I believe its a very nice compromise of power and comfort. Ammo is becoming a little easier to find, but its still nice to reload.
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    There is always room for debate in such things, of course, but if we use the old "1,000 foot-pounds" rule of thumb, the 7mm-08 is capable of cleanly taking deer well past 300 yards. IMO the main limiting factor for the 7mm-08 is bullet drop, which starts to become excessive beyond around 400 yards.
     
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    Everybody talks about 300 yard shooting as if it were a chip shot and that couldnt be farther from the truth. Things start to get really interesting out past 200 yards. If you want a gun to shoot 300 yards without having to adjust for drop your entry level is going to be a 130 grain .270 sighted in 3" high at 100 yards. You are still going to have to compensate for wind drift. My 300 yard gun is 7mm rem mag shooting 150 grains, pretty similar exterior ballistics to 130 grain .270 but a little more punch and a slightly better BC to battle wind drift.
     
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    Which is why I said...

    My point was really that, with so many manufacturers turning out rifles capable of 1-moa or better accuracy right out of the box these days, you really don't have to stress over which rifle can do the job. Many can.

    What you need to stress over is if YOU (the shooter) have the skills to be making shots like that.
     
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    The difference in drop between a .270 Win firing a 130gr bullet, and a 7mm-08 firing a 140 gr bullet is less than 1/2 inch at 300 yards. Certainly the shooter needs to do his job at that range, and I've seen lots of hunters who couldn't, but any of the common deer cartridge recomendations (well, maybe not the .30-30!) are more than adequate for 300 yard shots.
     
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    T3 in 25-06. Done done and done
     
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    25-06.....make sure it has a 24" barrel.
     
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    that half inch is the difference between a 290 MPBR and 300 MPBR you really do have to start splitting hairs when an ethical kill is required
     
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    What I'm saying is that arguing 1/2 inch differences in bullet drop or 10 yard differeces in MPBR is "splitting hairs". At a range of 300 yards there is no significant difference in practical effectiveness between the two cartridges.
     
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    I would probably think about things like fit and features if I was making that decision. Well I did just that when I did buy my hunting rifle. Tikka's are certainly nice rifles but some complain about them being too light for a .308 cartridge (too much recoil) but if you're looking only at rifles to hunt that may not be a factor. Looks matters to some people. The ability to deal with really bad weather is a must for some (like anyone who lives near salt marshes or the ocean). Iron sights appeal to some. And a great fit is always a plus.

    IMO it would be hard to go too wrong these days. The only rifles I might be concerned about are the Remingtons because of recent problems with QC due to the company being taken over and the plant moved. I guess Marlin has had some problems there too especially with their lever guns. Plus the Remington 710's and 770's were never the best guns. I used to love Remington and I still have some of their stuff but they have cut some corners in recent years. That's really too bad but their older rifles are top notch.

    There's a whole world full of rifles out there that will do what you ask. And about any caliber above a .223 will work great. In fact a .223 will probably work but I would prefer to take the "probably" out of the issue. Many people do hunt deer with .223 but IMO a .243 would be better.
     
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    Tikka T3 Hunter.

    They come in several calibers that will do what you want. I have one in 6.5x55SE.
     
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    Model #: M77 Hawkeye All Weather 3o8 stainless/synthetic,short,light and sweet 22 inch bbl 7lbs
     
  21. FiveInADime

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    In my opinion, the FN made model 70 is as good a hunting rifle as anything on the shelves right now. The stainless/synthetic version is a bargain for that quality level. Any good caliber will do 30-06, .308, .270, 25-06, 7mmremmag, 7-08, etc. Any of them will work to 300 yards no prob.

    To the flatlanders saying 300 yards is tough: I agree if you are talking about a standing unsupported shot. Anyone can make a rested shot at 300 yards with a 2 MOA rifle. That's why we carry shooting sticks. Westerners dont get as many shots as the boys back east. Out here if you get a chance at a 300 yard deer you take it. It might be the last shot you get for the season.
     
  22. Cee Zee

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    At one time us "easterners" were lucky to get a shot in 5 years. My how times have changed though. Up until the mid-70's it was very rare to see a white tail where I live. Then it was like someone dropped a bomb full of them. They were everywhere. Same for turkey and bear. Go figure.

    300 yards off hand is not that hard with a good rifle IMO. It has to be really well balanced and to be honest most rifles with scopes are not balanced that well. I can hold my SKS on a target better than I can my Savage 110 if I have a scope on the Savage. Without the scope they are about equal. And 300 yard shots without a scope aren't that hard either. Maybe it's just that 300 yards was about the limit on our farm and I practiced at that range a lot.
     
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    I have an ancient Ruger 77 243 that will drive tacks at 300 yards all day long.

    I'd also be willing to bet that a well made 25-06 will do like wise.

    Then again, I'm now officially a Westerner. I have a 1000 yard range on my ranch and a Shiloh Sharps that will shoot the whiskers off a gnat at 650 yards. Joking aside, it'll hit a waste-paper-can-size rock on a hillside at a measured 650 yards with astonishing consistency. (45-70 405 grain bullet). What I like to do is dial the rifle in then giuve it to someone who's never shot anything that big or that far. By the third shot they've a feel for it and the proceed to hit the rock with amazing consistency. They all walk away feeling like Matthew Quigley.
     
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    A hunting rifle capable at 300 yards for that budget or even less?? Too many good choices to mention....just avoid the too "el cheapo" options, like the Remington 770 or the Mossberg rifles....
     
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    Stevens 200 or Savage M11, add a Timney trigger and decent budget scope (Redfield or Weaver) and you'll have yourself a decent accurate gun that will work within your budget.
     
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