.308 Vs. 30-06

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I am looking at obtaining a new rifle but I can't choose between the .308 or the 30-06 I know they are the same size bullet with a different cartrige but what's better in your opinion
was also considering the 7mm or a .270
 
In my experience and for hunting, ballistically the .30-06 has a slight edge over the .308 most of the time, depending on the bullet (.308 excels with 165 grain and down, .30-06 165 grain and up) and the rifle. I would decide first if I wanted a short action rifle or a long action, as the .308 is available in very light and wonderful rifles with 20 inch barrels like the Remington model Seven, where the .30-06 requires a long action. You really can't lose with either one! Both calibers are battle-proven, powerful, accurate, and readily available. (My personal choice is the .308, but that's just me.)
 
I went the 30-06 route back in 1963. Dad got me a Win mod 70 featherweight via a sales contest with Underwood typewriter. The only choice I had was the Mod 70 or a Mod 94, 30-30. I still have that rifle and several others in 30-06, and have basically shunned the .308 because I did not want another caliber so close.

Now if I were choosing a pure target gun, I would go with the .308 because as I understand things, a short action is a little stiffer and supposedly more accurate. For all the hunting I have ever done it would be fine, but if I were to go for larger Elk or Moose, I would go the 30-06 route because of the velocity advantage with heavier bullets.

Honestly, I feel for most folks, either would be fine.
 
I just had to make the same choice, I found that they are both plentiful and cheap, but I think the 308 is a little cheaper. I bought a Marlin XS7 in 308 .
Rifle + scope (both new)= $478.00 I think you could come real close with the 06 if your goal is to stay low on the price.
 
The .30-06 can do anything that the .308 can, and a bit more. The difference is a bit more than most are led to believe, you could also argue that the .30-40Krag is close enough to the .308Win. (about the same difference as the .308 and .30-06), but nobody seems to like that comparison :p. IMO the .308 was a poorly designed cartridge as the caliber is a bit underbore for the case capacity (6.5-7mm suits it much better). That said I also prefer the .280Rem. (7mm bullet) to the .30-06 by a narrow margin.

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I have and like both and believe it depends on the rifle the round is fired from. If using a full size rifle I see no reason to use the 308. The difference in performance is small, but real. Where the 308 shines is in a smaller lighter rifle such as my Kimber. FWIW my 308 Kimber gets hunted with a lot more. But if I feel the need for just a bit more punch and range the heavier 30-06 goes hunting.
 
Zak said:
Overlooked cartridges:

.308-sized: 7mm-08 and .260REM

.30-06 sized: .280 Remington (aka 7mm-06)
Somebody has good taste. Two of my favorites are .260Rem. and .280Rem., with 7mm-08Rem. following closely behind.

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sureshot,

Both the 30-06 and 308 are the best. Depending on how your going to use the rifle the cartridge may choose it!

Of course the 30-06 is a little bit more powerful however....

Whatever you choose look for a soft recoil pad on the new rifle like the Deceletrator.
 
Zak has hit the nail in the head with the much overlooked 7mm-08. Bullet for bullet weight the 7mm-08 will out perform the the 308. It has a flatter trajectory than the 308 and the 243 winchester. And loaded with the right bullet weight it is enough of a rifle to take deer, elk , and moose.
 
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It has a flatter trajectory than the 308 and the 243 winchester.
Not beter than the .243Win. when comparing apples to apples; rather it is about equal at very long range, and requires less adjustment at short range. The .243 does eat barrels though, as well as limit what you can reasonably hunt (or shots you can take).

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I have killed deer and antelope with the four you have mentioned. Any advantages or shortcomings of any of those are hypothetical, at least when out in the field.

Pick whichever you like, or draw straws.
 
Ditto: Aside from asking the 'wrong' *question* (i.e. 7mm-08 is better than .308, and .280 rem is better than .30-06, at least as far as I am concerned, for my purposes/uses), the .30-06 gives you a bit more performance, and is often cheaper and easier to find than .308. But in the end, it doesn't make a hill of beans worth of difference.
 
Neither of the 30's are close to being obsolete but I think the 7mm's are probably a little more efficient in each length. I have all 4 and unless you are really splitting hairs at moderate distances there is no practical difference.
 
I have a HK G3 clone, and the .308 is very accurate. I have never shot a 30-06, but I figure if you are going with either, or considering another caliber you have to decide on what you are planning to do with the round and rfile. First decide on what you will be doing with the rifle itself. If you are hunting, plinking, or match competition shooting. If you are do all three, then I would suggestion you get a reliable, accurate, and comfortable rifle that you can use. If you want a bolt-action, lever-action or a semi-automatic action. Next is the round that the rifle fires. I will tell this story as a warning to those looking for a rifle. My cousin a few years back, was asking me what deer hunting round to go with, and naturally I told him you could use a .308 like my HK or 7.62x39 like my AK that I own. I knew my cousin, probably would not shoot his as often as I do my rifles, but I figured the ammo would be cheap and plentiful for him. He went out, and asked one of his friends the same question, and his friend suggested a .270, and he went with his friend's advice and picked up a Ruger bolt-action in .270. He took the rifle out a few times shot a deer with ith, and was disappointed with the rifle. He is now trying to sell the rifle.
 
Want a lightweight carbine-length hunting rig that's easy to schlep through the hills and woods? .308 in a nice short-action carbine ... like a Remington Model Seven.

Want a long-range beanfield rifle, or one that pushes a heavier projectile? Long barreled .30-06.

Not sure? One of each! :neener:
 
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