planetmobius
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Mine is a Remington 700 BDL with a Leupold scope. A far cry from a 15 pound match rifle and I could shoot it all day.
"My question to all is i have the oppertunity to get either a 308 or a 300 win mag and im not sure what to get..
Some of you have forgotten the question.
...the main pourpose of this rifle would be punch paper @ 300 yards with the occasional trip to 600+ But i would also like to have a rifle that i can Elk hunt with in New Mexico
...i will be reloading
snowpro440 said:the mighty 308 will take elk to 1000 yards with the right bullet
No .223 is even going to target shoot at 300yds like a .30 cal (don't forget the wind).
:banghead:No .223 is even going to target shoot at 300yds like a .30 cal (don't forget the wind).
I could not agree more.1000+ yard shooting has two real-world applications. Competitive target shooting (where bullet energy isn't that important) and military scenarios where ethical kills are irrelevant since a gut shot on OBL will do just fine thank you very much. Let's be honest, who's going to take a 1000 yard shot at an elk? unless you can put a cold bore shot in a 10" target at 1000 yards in real-world conditions then you shouldn't be thinking of shooting an elk at 1000 yards.
Quite right.At the end of day, you need to think about what you WILL use the rifle for, not what you HOPE or THINK you'll use the rifle for.
unless you can put a cold bore shot in a 10" target at 1000 yards in real-world conditions then you shouldn't be thinking of shooting an elk at 1000 yards.
The .308 is a fine rifle, has ballistics virtually identical to the .30-06
I quite agree with you Maverick, but: there is no real way that he can know. He may think that he can do it; he may be highly confident that he can do it; and indeed he may actually have done it several times before. But shooting in the field is not like shooting at a target range, and - as ArmedBear noted - there are variables such as wind and slope that can be estimated but not precisely known.I don't think that the shot in the video is unreasonable if and only if the individual knew that he could make the shot
Anyway, as WileyWapiti says, hunting is about interacting with nature, not being some sort of remote assassin far removed from the "target". Good blog entry here.
What is the backup plan for a 50yd shot, there are no guarantees on second chances. I do feel that you should hunt as far as you would like and are able to do successfully. If you want to (and are able to) shoot deer at 1000yds with a Barrett Light Fifty that weighs 35lbs then I see no problem with it. I didn't necessarily say it is for me, I think 200yds is a long shot when hunting. Now lets get back to the original question...I have no quarrel with long range shooting as a sport; it's a great challenge! But it is inappropriate for hunting, since my question "what is their back-up plan if they muff the shot and wound the animal?" can never be satisfactorily answered. Animals deserve respect, and indeed obtain it from any true hunter. They should not be placed at undue risk of pain and suffering merely to satisfy some slob's ego.
Please read the blog entry, linked above in my previous post. He explains everything in simple terms.What is the backup plan for a 50yd shot, there are no guarantees on second chances
saturno_v said:At 1000 yards various long range loads for the .308 retain ~550 ft/lb of energy ... At the same distance mark, the long range loads for the 300 Win Mag retain ~850-870 ft/lb of energy....not an enormous difference after all....
BTW, what's the world record for a benchrest 1000 yard group?