327 Federal Mag rifle, yea or na

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I just don't see it as having any real advantage over .357 in a rifle platform
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At this point for me the main thing would be that it would overlap less with my Marlin 1894 in 45 Colt. Once you start getting down into the 327's territory I start getting more tempted by something like a .22 Hornet.

Like I said, I want to like this idea. I wouldn't mind if somebody convinced me otherwise, but I have a hard time picturing myself buying one of these.
 
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commercial 32-20 loads are dumbed down for antique pistols. When loaded for a modern carbine, like the Marlin or Browning 53, the 32-20 is an entirely different animal which can indeed generate more power than a 30 carbine while remaining well inside of safe pressure limits.

That said:

I would LOVE to see 327 carbine! I would want it to be scaled down though - perhaps Marlin could trim their design down a bit to make it a hair thinner, and bit lighter - now THAT would make a good general purpose PCC in its own right.
 
I don't see a problem with it, but I wouldn't be spending money on it either. I'm all for more rounds giving the shooter more options, even if only slightly different than the current options. More is better. But I'm not buying one.
 
Once you start getting down into the 327's territory I start getting more tempted by something like a .22 Hornet.
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Or a .25-35. I almost grabbed a 1927 manufacture 94 so chambered last year, it was really clean. But $800 was just a little more cheddar than I could afford to part with at the time. Still think about that one, though. One day.
 
I kind of like the .327 round, on the grounds that I can get an SP-101 in a 6 shot cylinder, with a similarly hard-hitting round as the .357 magnum.

The thing is though, I'd probably never get one until someone comes out with a rifle to share the caliber with. I'm pretty big on my handguns having a pistol caliber carbine to go with them, and that's just my own personal little habit.
 
Taurus is the only home of making a 327 rifle. Marlin is owned by the freedom Group or Cerberus they won't.
 
Speaking of the 327 in a Taurus rifle, how about a Circiut Judge in 327? I would think it should be able to hold about 8 rounds and be reloaded quickly via speedloaders.
 
The .327 federal was a solution looking for a problem, but I said that about the .357 sig till I saw it shoot through metal plates and car doors.
 
I wouldn't buy anything that I wasn't almost guaranteed factory loads for in 20 years from now. I don't have the room or time to reload. There is a reason that the standard calibers are standard- because they perform over the widest range of applications the best. I am envious of any that reload, I'd LOVE to do it, but it isn't practical and that's what drives the market in large part.
 
I'm sure room isn't really an issue. Reloading can take up as much space as you let it, but if you are smart it can take up very little, be portable, and not have too high of an initial purchase price. When I think of what it would take to reload on a bare bones setup, I don't see many places that physically couldn't store and use the stuff. You may need to be a bit creative, but it can typically work out. Heck, a Lee Classic loader, a hammer, a case trimmer (more for necked cases), a cheap caliper, and the components are all you really need to load. It's slow and crude, but it's making your own. All of that could fit in a shoe box and cost of tools would be a bit under $100 even if you didn't have a hammer or caliper.
 
Nay for me. I'd just get a .357 Mag rifle. It will do everything and more. A little 110 or 125 gr will easily break 2000 fps out of a rifle if you want a flat shooting varmint load and you can go all the way up to 180-190 grainers if you need the other end of the spectrum.

I do like .327 for small revolvers. Gives an extra shot and still should have good penetration.
 
pros Flatter shooting then a 357
less recoil then a 357
cons 3220 in a 92 is allready a better gun. Feeds better and is a bit more powerful when handloaded
3220 has been around forever and allways will be. Jury still out on the 327
3220 has that good old nastalia going for it

dont really see any pros to the 327
 
Probably only about a dozen guys would buy one. Not worth Marlins effort to sell a handful of guns.
 
cons 3220 in a 92 is allready a better gun. Feeds better and is a bit more powerful when handloaded
3220 has been around forever and allways will be. Jury still out on the 327
3220 has that good old nastalia going for it

dont really see any pros to the 327
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I love a good .32-20 but the case is famously fragile and with heavy loads, lasts few loadings. Not to mention that one can use carbide dies for the .327, which is of significance to someone like me who doesn't handload because it's fun. Similar performance, more robust cases and carbide dies. That's a big pro. I do agree that the 92 is a better rifle though.
 
Whatever floats your boat, but for my money I don't see what it accomplishes over a good ole .30Carbine.

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I would like one. I would like a .357 lever gun too, but they are going for a premium.

So my vote is Yea.
 
I want one because I think it would be cool. The end.

I liken it to food. We could find one dish that meets all of our nutritional needs, buy the ingredients in bulk, and eat only that at every meal for the rest of our lives. We'd probably all save money that way. It would be highly practical.
 
I'd buy a lever gun in .327 Fed Mag in a heartbeat. I have a GP100 already, and it would be a nice match for it.

I like the round, and the other round as well, .32 H&R Mag that the same guns will shoot. Brass is a problem right now, so you have to buy factory ammo and save the brass, but hopefully that will ease up soon.

I keep my eyes peeled for brass all the time.
 
Earlier--the post vanished in the migration--There was a reference to this Gunblast article showing the 327 getting 1600+fps from revolvers for ~115gr bullets.
http://www.gunblast.com/Freedom-Harton327.htm

This got me intrigued. Turns out, the loads are all well over max.
His 100gr XTP was loaded with 16.5gr of H110. Hodgdon's max is 13.2. His 100gr XTP with AA#9 was loaded with 14gr. Accurate states 13.0 as max.

In one of his other articles about the 327 which resulted in simlar chronograph results, he stated
"My best handload performance was loaded using Hodgdon H110 powder, and equaled and exceeded the performance of the factory ammunition. However, my powder charges exceed those listed by Hodgdon, so they are not recommended, and will not be published here. "

--apparently he changed his mind about publishing the numbers.

What does all this mean? Not all *that* much. The factory loads are still not too shabby. The 115gr factory load did 1,578fps from a 6.5" barrel, 1,462fps from a 5.5". Which is still quite respectable. I just thought it was worth mentioning that those eye-popping 100gr @ 1,700fps loads might require a walk on the wild side...

The other thing that's interesting is that he had to go 3.5gr over max with H110 in order to just squeak by the factory 100gr load:
AE 100gr Factory Load, 1,579/1,649 (5.5"/6.5")
100gr XTP with 16.5gr H110: 1,604/1,707.
 
The .30M1 doesn't come in a levergun!
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...but why not put the .30Carbine (back) in a lever? I realize it is rimless, but it is a more established cartridge, firing a more standard bullet (that is darn near the same caliber), and has a bit more power (from a pistol or carbine). Besides the unsuitability of rimless cartridges in a lever is a myth...plenty are chambered for such cartridges, and work just fine.

In fact there ate far more 30carbine chambered leverguns out there than there are 327 ones
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Hehehe, infinitely more Marlin M-62s. :D
 
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