crestoncowboy
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Bless their marketing spirit.
I've used 10s of thousands of their plated bullets mostly in .400. Great low dollar bullets but
My first thought matched your line
Bless their marketing spirit.
It's a 20" rifle barrel. It does stabilize 180s though. Kind of apples and oranges comparing it to a handgun.I have never heard of such a slow rate. Is it for .357? I thought .357's were best around 15 or so. Aren't roundball muskets in to 1:30 range?
Not trying to rain on your parade, but questioning your sources. I have been spitting out rounds loaded with 148 gr. LSCW cast with wheel-weight lead. Per Lee #2 loaded with 6.4 gr. Unigue shows 1,465 fps at 33,800 PSI. Shot from a 686 I get minimal leading that is removed with a brush wrapped with bronze wool. For info on the feeding of lead bullets go to http://www.lasc.us/Fryxell_Book_Chapter_7_Leading.htm.Well I've never loaded 357 magnum to magnum velocity. Mainly due to the fact of never having jacketed bullets.
I think you want to switch to coated lead over plated for magnum loads. You can run coated to 1800 FPS on a good coat, and cheaper than plated I find.
Rossi rifles have a 1-30” twist. Marlins are 1-16” I believe.I have never heard of such a slow rate. Is it for .357? I thought .357's were best around 15 or so. Aren't roundball muskets in to 1:30 range?
That makes the Rossi perfect for pushing cast bullets as hard as you can. I've run those Hornady 158 cowboy bullets at 1800 with just a hint of leading that cleaned up with normal cleaning.Rossi rifles have a 1-30” twist. Marlins are 1-16” I believe.
Stay safe.
I have found trying to crimp and seat a plated bullet in one step will deform the bullet and compromise the plating using a RCBC roll or taper crimp die, so I seat and crimp in separate steps.
I get much better accuracy with H110/win296 or 2400 with quality cast and coated bullets, compared to plated.
I use a FIRM roll crimp and magnum primers with H110/win296
I've shot thousands of 357, and 44 magnum loads to +1400fps with cast bullets.
I prefer something with a good crimp groove, like a Keith.
these are home cast and clear powder coated
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note the roll crimp
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Powder coated Keith bullets
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before I learned about powder coating, I'd use a lubamatic to fill with wax lube, these also have copper gas checks
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You found the why I shoot hitec coated lead bullets when I run H110.Got to shoot it today:
One thing after another happened and didn't get to make it until today. As you guys expected, results sucked. Read below for suckery...
So I worked my way up through some loads and below are the outcomes and order shot in...
Bore looks decently shiny and in the grooves I can see some streaking (maybe leading?)
- 6.3gr of Unique with normal primers...Decently accurate and a puppy to shoot.
- 8.3gr of Unique with normal primers...Quite hot, large fireball from sides of cylinder. AMAZINGLY accurate!
- 15gr of 296 with mag primers...Clearly into magnum territory. Accuracy was falling apart and holes in paper target grew in size.
- 16gr of 296 with mag primers...Enough to have the only other guy there, 3 bays down to ask me "*** are you shooting? I can feel the concussion down there." Fireball from cylinder gap was legendary and accuracy was a joke.
- Factory loaded Remington UMC 357 Magnum fired lastly to compare. Grouping was as good as my 8.3gr Unique load and more importantly the holes were nice and neat compared to the both 296 loads which were almost double the size. Unstable bullets?