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358 Winchester not produced in 70 years?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by GAMEOVER44, Jan 13, 2015.

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  1. morcey2

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    I was in one of our LGS's today and they have 15-20 boxes of the Hornady 358 Win.
     
  2. David4516

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    Sorry GAMEOVER44 I didn't realize it was one that was already converted that you had traded for.

    "This is a competition worthy rifle almost"

    I would think it would be better suited to hunting? Guess it depends on what type of competition. Normally though when I think competition I think of cartridges that shoot a really high ballistic coefficient bullet.

    Honestly if it were me I probably would have stuck with the .300 WSM. Looking up some ballistics data the .300 should shoot alot flatter and hit harder at pretty much any given distance (see attachment)

    This is assuming that you're shooting 180gr in the .300 (at approx 2900 FPS) and 225gr in the .358 (at approx 2400 FPS)

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/31...-225-grain-bonded-spitzer-boat-tail-box-of-50

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/11...tzer-boat-tail-box-of-50?cm_vc=ProductFinding
     

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  3. natman

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    That's the case with many cartridges these days, not just the 358. If you got ammo with the gun save the brass and learn to reload.
     
  4. 351 WINCHESTER

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    He was probably thinking of the .348 Winchester which has not been made in a very long time.
     
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    Gameover44, while the cartridge is still a current production cartridge it can be difficult to find.

    With certain cartridges they do limited production runs. Much like for example 30-06 Springfield or 308 Winchester. So when someone does a run the stuff gets to the retailers and gets gobbled up. That's it till another production run by someone. As you are seeing, while retailers advertise the cartridge, it generally comes down to a not in stock. Eventually you will build up some stock and be rolling your own, just takes time. Yeah, I know it can be frustrating.

    Ron
     
  6. GAMEOVER44

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    Morcey: can you put me in contact with that company im not familiar with your abbreviations.

    David: the 300 WSM would NOT hit harder at 100 yards or so. I dont snipe, I hunt. This round is PERFECTLY engineered to expend all of its energy into its target. That is why I own this caliber. Ill enjoy the less recoil too. Not to mention 7 more rounds if id like to for ****s and giggles. But in reality, this is my hunting rifle.

    Reloadiron: I enjoyed your comment especially the roll your own part. It looks like ill be heading there ay? Your from the midwest I can tell. Not a Ohio State fan :p im a michigan STATE fan.:neener:
     
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  7. morcey2

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    PM sent.

    LGS = Local Gun Store
     
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  8. GAMEOVER44

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    recieved and returned, thank you sir.
     
  9. Jim Watson

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    A friend mulled over converting his 6mm to .358 for some time. By the time he moved on it, there was a new gimmick round on the market which caught his eye. So now he has a .338 Federal. It shoots and kills game but if it is any better than .358, I can't see how.
     
  10. GAMEOVER44

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    Thats a good round too.

    All these calibers are making me foam at the mouth.
     
  11. natman

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    Winchester has stopped making the 348, but only in the last few years. I remember unpacking a case of it when I worked in a gun shop in 2009.

    They still offer brass as a seasonal item and Grizzly and Buffalo Bore still load ammo.
     
  12. jaysouth

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    A couple of weeks ago I got a CVA single shot in 35 Rem. For which ammo and brass are unobtainable. I solved the issue with a chambering reamer. It is now a .358 Win.

    I got a set of Lee dies and a Lyman M die for expanding the case neck for cast bullets. Next was casting a bunch of 180 and 200 gr. bullets then stuffing them into the cases with H4895 powder.

    In the space of two weeks I am so hooked on the round that I took a long mauser action to a smith yesterday who is going to barrel it in 358 Win with a 1:13" twist bbl.
     
  13. GAMEOVER44

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    Sounds good wish I knew how to load.
     
  14. MrBorland

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    It's something that can be learned. And it doesn't take 1-on-1 instruction; just some reading, motivation, and careful attention to detail.

    There are plenty of on-line resources to get you started, and some good intro books as well. Start off by digging into the stickies at the top of the Handloading and Reloading section. Read, ask questions, and it'll start making sense at some point.
     
  15. gpjoe

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    Reloading is easy. The hard (critical) part is paying attention and not making stupid mistakes.

    You could get a single-stage "O" press and some dies and be in business without breaking the bank. I haven't checked recently, but pretty sure you can get a Lee press with all the necessary accesories for 100-200 bucks.

    I can easily reload 100 rifle rounds on my Hornady single stage press in well under an hour - using brass that is already prepared.

    I'm surprised your pops doesn't reload. If so, you could learn a lot from him.
     
  16. GAMEOVER44

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    He does reload. I sent him an email asking him to teach me and if I could join him next time he reloads. I didnt get a reply he dont use the internet much at all.
     
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    I like the .358 round, and am glad to see the current interest expressed on THR. Does anybody know the approximate production numbers on the Ruger "Frontier" model in .358?

    Someone asked me, and I'm not sure of the answer. It has laminated stock, shorter barrel, bolt action, closely resembles the "Scout" rifle but with a different name of course.
     
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