.36 caliber Navy Model Accuracy

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Cult Of 1858

I have been shooting at the Nationals for 18 years now. I shoot with the
best in the world. I know first hand what is shot. You sir do not know of
what you speak of. I personaly know the people who hold the records. They
are friends of mine. The record scores and the names of the ones who hold
them are on the NMLRA web site. Look them up. I also have copys of the
targets they shot. I have posted some here on this fourm. Please get your
facts right.
Phil

 

[Cult of 1858]

1" groups at 10 yards and 2.5 at 25 yards isnt exactly 'Nationals' standard (is it??)

Sorry, but this was an actual question, not a statement, although I see where you see that.

I am clueless and have never shot competition, to me its the practice and always trying to get 5 into 1 hole.

 

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Pulp

Yes you can. My Remington I use in competition has a built in stop on the
loading ram. The balls are seated with the same amount of pressure for
each shot. You just push the ball in until the stop hits the front of the
cylinder. It can't go any fauther. There are several things that we do to
accurize our revolvers of which I have not seen any of them metioned here.

 

[Pulp]

kwhi, that makes sense and is one of those ideas that is so simple I'd have never thought of it.

 

[Mike OTDP]

Back to the OP...

First, check the alignment of each chamber with the barrel. Most of the Italian repros are made to a price point - which means that you'll frequently get chambers that are not properly aligned with the bore.

Second, don't expect too much. You'll find that almost all the top-flight target shooters don't use Colts, precisely because the Remingtons and Rogers & Spencers are more accurate.

 

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Cult Of 1858

Yes, I read it wrong. I thought it was just a smart ass statement. But, But
I was a bit hasty in my repley. Sorry for flying off the handle so quick. I will
have to take it a bit more easy in the future. Thanks for making it clear to
me. Now for the rest of you yahoos out there, WATCH IT

 

[makos_goods]

Yes you can. My Remington I use in competition has a built in stop on the
loading ram. The balls are seated with the same amount of pressure for
each shot. You just push the ball in until the stop hits the front of the
cylinder. It can't go any fauther. There are several things that we do to
accurize our revolvers of which I have not seen any of them metioned here.

Kwhi43,
I have cylinder loader that I set up that way. I posted pictures of it here a while back. The rams are brass and I have several versions, I have one for .36 caliber and for .44 caliber that has a step that stops against the face of the cylinder to assure consistent ball depth.

That design is very precise in regards to the actual depth from the face. However, it has two problems. I have determined you don't get consistent pressure that way, you get a constant depth for the ball, not the compression of the overall stack. The second problem is that it cuts lead rings from the balls upon insertion and then they pack up between the shoulder and the cylinder face. You have to clean it off every ball or you get a "ring" of lead.

I tried pushing until it entered the bore, then backed off the handle and removed the ring. I have a close fit between the chamber size and the ram (trying to get a large pressing surface to minimize ball distortion) making the ring a pain to get off. I was going to put a stop separate from the actual ram, but in my shooting I found I was better off getting a consistent pressure on the entire powder and ball column. I did this with feel which may sound inconsistent, but we all do that every day in tightening fasteners etc.

I guess the only way would be a pressure based self attenuating system. It could be done by loading the ram with a spring behind it. Once you began compressing the spring into a range you would know you had a "consistent pressure." The only thing more precise would be a direct feedback sensor in line with the ram. I saw where someone mentioned a scale, but you would have to limit the torque.

Regards,
Mako

 

[75THRANGER]

i have a ball in cylinder that I must have not put enought powder and the bullet wuilln not diascharge the cap will fire but no ball how to remove ball there were three i did this wway and has never happened to me but it was dark and got distracted email me at [email protected]

 

[junkman_01]

Pull the nipple and remove any powder that might be in there and drive the ball out with any thin rod or punch that will fit through the nipple hole. Be careful not to damage the nipple threads.

 

[Curator]

Using "purchased" round balls could be a source of your porblems. Despite the advertizements to the contrary, swaged round balls are anything but consistant. Weigh some to prove it to your self. Get a Lee ball mould and make some for yourself with pure lead then weigh the results and sort into groups.

 

[Mike OTDP]

Interesting thread.

I shoot a Remington for N-SSA competition, have for over thirty years. But I picked up a Uberti .36 Navy Colt...to experiment with for team matches. I might just be able to accurize it with this information.