I picked up my ‘58 Navy a couple weeks ago. Today was the first time I have had an opportunity to go to the desert and shoot. The accuracy was about the same as my ‘51 Navy except it shot low at 15 yards. I usually check a new pistol for point of impact,15 yards is my normal distance. With 20 grains of Pyrodex P the impact was about 6 inches low, with 25 grains about 4 inches low and with 30 grains about 2 inches low. I was also surprised that after 24 shots the cylinder was beginning to be hard to turn. The Remington has a different feel the Colt. Time will tell which one I prefer. I had a great time the temperature was up to 65 today and sunny.
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Mn Fats
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You added more powder and got a higher point of impact? Usually it's the opposite when it comes to handguns. More powder/higher velocity yields lower points of impact due to less "hang time".
Very nice, glad you got a chance to get out and shoot! I too have found that the Remington design has a different feel. I got a NMA last year, expecting a much more robust revolver. While I love the revolver nonetheless, it did not quite live up to my expectations. I found it really no more sturdy than my open top colt in .44. And yes, after firing 4 full cylinders it starts to gum up. Fire 6 full cylinders with no maintenance in between, and pulling the cylinder pin to remove the cylinder for cleaning is a bear. 24 rounds at the range is usually where I pull the cylinder, wipe down the pin and brush out the hole in the cylinder, and relube. Meanwhile, the open top Colts won´t bind after 10 cylinders. In fact, my NMA gave me fresh appreciation for my Colt repro, while I also learned to appreciate the Remington design.
I am a fan of the Remington design. A spare cylinder can be carried that is essentially a reload. I am a fan of the hammer not doubling as the rear sight, though I am more accustomed to this than I used to be. I like the 2 piece grips. There is a lot to like... congrats on your new navy!
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45 Dragoon showed me a modification that helps with the powder fouling on the remmies, I think he showed a picture of it on an earlier post.
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I also have a new model navy and a new model army.
They are beautiful and can really handle a heavy powder charge. I also appreciate the sight picture on them. You can cut small notches in the remmy cylinder pin to create grease grooves to keep it running a tad longer.
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Colts are work horses.. They shake off BP fouling like no other and keep running till you get tired of shootin'.
I love my remmys but for black powder shooting I prefer my colt clones.
I often leave my Howell cylinders in my remmy clones. When I shoot BP 45 colt loads the brass does seem to keep the fouling a tad lighter. That being said my remmy usually stays loaded with 45 colt red dot loads.
They are beautiful and can really handle a heavy powder charge. I also appreciate the sight picture on them. You can cut small notches in the remmy cylinder pin to create grease grooves to keep it running a tad longer.
But......
Colts are work horses.. They shake off BP fouling like no other and keep running till you get tired of shootin'.
I love my remmys but for black powder shooting I prefer my colt clones.
I often leave my Howell cylinders in my remmy clones. When I shoot BP 45 colt loads the brass does seem to keep the fouling a tad lighter. That being said my remmy usually stays loaded with 45 colt red dot loads.
When I decided to get back into Black Powder I wanted either a ‘51 Colt or a ‘58 Remington. I didn’t care about the caliber. I found the ‘51 in 36 caliber last January. When I saw the ‘58 in 36 caliber I decided to pick it up. Informal shooting in the desert is all I do so the caliber is not important. Now both revolvers use the same size round balls.
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I’ve never shot Pyrodex in my .36 cal. 1851 Navy but, using black powder, I don’t push it over 25gr.. My gun shoots 18gr of 3fg.well. Perhaps you should back your load down a bit and shoot off a rest to sight it in for group. Once you establish a point of reference, add or subtract powder to get your preferred load.
My normal load in my ‘51 is 20 to 25 grains. The first time shooting the ‘58 was an experiment. I prefer 20-25 for both of them. The difference between 20 and 25 is difficult to notice.
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25 grains of OE is a good load in my new 51
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