375 H&H 300gr Cast Load Data Needed

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I just got my order of 300gr LFNGC in from Montana Bullet Works. I found data a while back for this load, and could have sworn that I wrote it down, but it appears that I did not. Now I can’t remember where I found it…. I’ve been scanning the web for the last hour or so, and can’t locate it. I’ve found reduced loads, but I’m after full house loads. I’m wanting to use IMR4064. any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
All I can find for 300 grain is a banded solid.
Even my old RCBS first edition cast manual doesn't have one.
 
Not sure if this helps. The Lyman 50th version reloading manual does have information for two cast bullets. The information is given for reduced velocity loads; seemingly under the assumption lead bullets are practice only sort of loads.

You don't state for what purpose you desire lead bullet 'full charge' loads but one would expect those (lighter) cast bullet loads would do for Mr. Deer.

If all fails, one must keep in mind that generally, lead bullets do a better job of sealing the bore, allowing less propellant gases to escape, thereby giving greater internal pressures. However, the propellent quantity is based essentially on bullet weight. So the starting loads and lower end loads for jacketed bullets will be close to the same.
I caution against the maximum loads - pressure difference - and likely an increase in leading.

As always, start low and work up. Also as often stated, your firearm is individual and all rifles require attention to specific conditions. No guarantees.
 
Not sure if this helps. The Lyman 50th version reloading manual does have information for two cast bullets. The information is given for reduced velocity loads; seemingly under the assumption lead bullets are practice only sort of loads.

You don't state for what purpose you desire lead bullet 'full charge' loads but one would expect those (lighter) cast bullet loads would do for Mr. Deer.

If all fails, one must keep in mind that generally, lead bullets do a better job of sealing the bore, allowing less propellant gases to escape, thereby giving greater internal pressures. However, the propellent quantity is based essentially on bullet weight. So the starting loads and lower end loads for jacketed bullets will be close to the same.
I caution against the maximum loads - pressure difference - and likely an increase in leading.

As always, start low and work up. Also as often stated, your firearm is individual and all rifles require attention to specific conditions. No guarantees.


I’ve got the Lyman 50th (and 47th), neither one are any help.
As for why I want full bore loads, it’s just because that’s what I like to shoot.
I was doing some digging over on castboolits and think I have found some usable information. According to what I’ve read over there, I can take 300gr jacketed low end data and work from it using high BHN GC’d bullets. Basically working up to the closest accuracy node and check for leading.
 
I’ve got the Lyman 50th (and 47th), neither one are any help.
As for why I want full bore loads, it’s just because that’s what I like to shoot.
I was doing some digging over on castboolits and think I have found some usable information. According to what I’ve read over there, I can take 300gr jacketed low end data and work from it using high BHN GC’d bullets. Basically working up to the closest accuracy node and check for leading.
I tried. But it sounds like you're on to what you want. Be careful (I'm sure you are) and Good Fortune!
 
Well, I did a ladder from 53.0-58.0 grains of IMR4064 today. Not exactly stellar results. Best group was 1.5” at 50 yards with open sights. The good thing is that I didn’t see any signs of leading and the recoil was mild (relatively speaking). The groups were starting to get smaller towards the upper end loads. I do think I can push this bullet quite a bit harder, so I may do another small ladder from 59.0 up to maybe 62.0 or so.
My ladder of 300gr Hornady DGS’s over IMR4064 produced excellent results. One hole groups between 62.0 and 63.5 grains.
 
Try seating the bullet out, lightly crimping it into the first lube groove.
Cast bullets are more sensitive to run-out, and this may reduce it.
You need to chronograph too if able. I find accuracy starts dropping after 2,000fps, and drops off precipitously after 2,250fps.
Larger sizing will also most likely help.
I’ve only shot bullets sized .378”, but find them VERY accurate from my .375Ruger. I’ve only used the Lee 255gr FN over 16.0gr of Unique. It’ll take anything I’ll encounter in Ga or Al.
 
I actually tried playing with seating depth when I was working up the ladder test. Basically, if it’s not seated to the crimp groove then it hits the lands.
I don’t have a chronograph (yet), so I have no idea how fast they are moving. Just by feeling, they have about 75% as much thump as a full house jacketed load.
 
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