38 Super disclaimer.

[orionengnr]

I have to admire the gun shop's honesty in posting that disclaimer.
Lots of places might have made that sale, said "no returns" and let it be the customer's problem.

 

[Rock185]

From what I read on the internet, confusing .38 Super with .38 Spcl. is not all that infrequent. I once sold some .357 SIG ammo through our club newsletter. First call I got was from a guy who wanted to buy it to use in his .357 Magnum revolver. Took a while to explain to him why .357 SIG ammunition wouldn't work in his revolver....

While some .38 Super ammunition will chamber and fire in some .38 Spcl. and .357 Magnum revolvers, I have other uses for it
Signs in store, Good.

 

[kBob]

Had a guy show up to one of our classes with a little 7.65 Euro Auto of some sort. It would fire one round and stop. Occasionally it would get off two rounds. I ask him about his ammo and he told me he was using .32.

Eventually I picked up a piece of his brass and it WAS .32.... .32 S&W, yes the rimmed stuff and the short one at that. The cartridges did not produce enough recoil to push the slide back far enough to pick up another round most of the time. Oddly despite the rim they hand fed from the magazine and the extractor grabbed them to eject. I swapped him some .32ACP for his .32 S&W and everyone was happy.

The guy had brought the pistol home from WWII. It had been in his sock drawer loaded with .32S&W most of the time since!

-kBob

 

[TRX]

> grab ammo because the number on the box is the same.

The default caliber for the Remington Model 8 was .30-30 Remington. For all practical purposes, .30-30 Remington was a rimless version of .30-30 Winchester. And, of course, Remington also sold .30-30 Winchester ammo, in boxes prominently marked "Remington"...

Remington took the easy way out and renamed their rimless cartridge ".30 Remington" instead of ".30-30 Remington." About a century later they flubbed again, introducing the ".30 Remington AR", which was a completely different cartridge from the .30 Remington...

 

[Sovblocgunfan]

These days, some people don’t give a tinker’s darn about what it says on the box. They’re only interested in cashing in on the ammo shortage.

 

[brutus51]

^^ next thing the gun grabbers will complain about even though it's already illegal.

 

[lightman]

I have a collection of odd stuff that I have found that was fired in the wrong gun. 300 Winchester fired in a 300 Weatherby and 308 fired in a 30-06 is fairly common. I have a few 357 Sig cases that look like they were fired in a 40 S&W. Probably a few others that I'm forgetting.

 

[gnappi]

I have a collection of odd stuff that I have found that was fired in the wrong gun. 300 Winchester fired in a 300 Weatherby and 308 fired in a 30-06 is fairly common. I have a few 357 Sig cases that look like they were fired in a 40 S&W. Probably a few others that I'm forgetting.

FIREFORMING!!!

 

[Riomouse911]

My Dad was somewhat gun-savvy but even those folks can get confused over the zany way ammo names/calibers are put forth to the public.

I remember back in the 1980’s he bought a brand new left-hand 700 BDL in 7mm Rem Mag and mounted a nice Redfield scope on it. He only referred to it as a “Seven millimeter”, never adding the “Remington Magnum” afterwards.

He later bought “7mm” ammo, and took it home. It was a box of Federal 7mm Mauser 175 gr RN. I must say he never shot the gun, it sat for decades untouched in a case in his closet.

To this day I now have the rifle, still unfired, in the back of my safe. I still have the same box of ammo, too. Since I don’t own a 7x57, a 7mm Mauser or a 275 Rigby, I’ll probably never shoot them either.



Stay safe.

 

[Jim Watson]

Around here "7mm" means 7mm Remington Magnum. If you want a Mauser you had better say so.

Remington outsmarted themselves when they tried to pep up the .280 Rem by calling it the
7mm Remington Express. That was hard for a lot of clerks and customers to tell from
7mm Remington Magnum, so they changed it back after they fixed some rifles.

 

[.308 Norma]

That was hard for a lot of clerks and customers to tell from
7mm Remington Magnum

Yep, both clerks and customers. A long time ago, when the 7mm-08 was first commercialized, I had a "clerk" behind the gun counter in a sporting goods store ask me, "Now what's the difference between a 7mm-08 and a regular 7mm?" I quickly figured out that to the clerk, a "regular 7mm" was a 7mm Rem Mag.
But when it comes to 7mms, what a person considers a "regular 7mm" might have something to do with their age and how long they've been around guns. What I mean is, when I was a rifle crazy teen-aged kid back in the '60s, a "7mm" was a 7mm Mauser. The 7mm Rem Mag was around back then, but I didn't know anyone who actually had one. On the other hand, I remember at least two of my dad's friends that used "7mms" (meaning 7mm Mausers) very effectively on mule deer and elk.

 

[Chamgunner]

Did some trading with a guy, he said here take this . It was a box of 45-70. I asked where he got it he told me he went in a store and asked for 45 and that what they gave him.

 

[reddog81]

I think a big part of the problem lies with ammo manufacturers using so many different naming conventions for the exact same cartridge. Why do we need 9x19, 9mm Luger, 9mm Parabellum, 9mm Nato, 9MM Para, 9mm Service Grade, etc? How does someone new to guns know to differentiate that from 9mm Kurz, 9mm Corto, 9mm short, .380 ACP (which is completely different from 38 ACP), .380, or 9mm Browning among other designations. For something as important as this, it should be made as easy as possible.

When you go to the store and look at 12 ammo options all having different names how is the consumer supposed to know which one falls under 9x19 vs 380 ACP. It's easy to criticize "dumb" consumers but gun store clerks can be just as bad.

 

[brutus51]

I agree there should only be punybellums and punyierbellums.