george29. I hear pros and cons on the R9, not price as much as just very very ammo sensitive. It's a small bugger for sure. My pm9 is bigger no doubt but it can ride in my front pocket with ease and mine at least willshoot everything I put in it, and I have 12,800 rounds down range through it. If I can't shoot um, I don't want um. not sure the R9 would take that type of shootings. I bet it would be a fun gun to shoot once you got it running right though..