Panzerschwein
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+1. And don't forget the bolt actions as well. legal almost anywhere, a sporterized (or stock) Mauser with some stripper clips at hand wouldn't get a second look in any state yet can be a formidable fighting rifle if pressed, and not bad for hunting neither!I always thought lever gun with long magazine would make fine a HD gun. For .45-70 that would be "Cowboy" style load at 1200fps to 1300fps. Heck, you could even pack that into places like California w/o upsetting the locals. That is due in large measure to Western movies. The same can not be said of civilian versions of AKMs or M16s.