....they were considered very effective deer cartridges.
In their original loadings, their ME level is between 1/3 and half of a modern 30-30 round...not too mention that bullet technology was primitive 120-130 years ago compared to today's standard.
In an era when a 30-30 is considered by many "marginal" on deer, nobody would even dream to take one of these 2 oldies in the field anymore.
I ask the expert hunters....What has changed?? Distance of engagement were reduced, on average, compared to toda'sy typical 30 WCF range? Hunters were losing more game because of missed/ineffective shots? There was less emphasis on "ethical" one shot kill? They were more effective stalkers or it was easier to stalk?
Same thing for the original 45-70 trapdoor loads.....The Sharps slayed milions of buffalo....however the ME of these loads (~ 1500-1600 ft/lb) would make laugh a modern day serious buffalo hunter...probably an original trapdoor would not even be accepted by the guides in a typical canned buffalo hunt.
Again, what are the differences between our great-great-granfather times and our time...shooting distances? Less ethical shots and/or more lost game? Better stalking abilities/opportunities?
As non hunter I'm interested to know more about how the discipline and techniques evolved over time.
Regards
In their original loadings, their ME level is between 1/3 and half of a modern 30-30 round...not too mention that bullet technology was primitive 120-130 years ago compared to today's standard.
In an era when a 30-30 is considered by many "marginal" on deer, nobody would even dream to take one of these 2 oldies in the field anymore.
I ask the expert hunters....What has changed?? Distance of engagement were reduced, on average, compared to toda'sy typical 30 WCF range? Hunters were losing more game because of missed/ineffective shots? There was less emphasis on "ethical" one shot kill? They were more effective stalkers or it was easier to stalk?
Same thing for the original 45-70 trapdoor loads.....The Sharps slayed milions of buffalo....however the ME of these loads (~ 1500-1600 ft/lb) would make laugh a modern day serious buffalo hunter...probably an original trapdoor would not even be accepted by the guides in a typical canned buffalo hunt.
Again, what are the differences between our great-great-granfather times and our time...shooting distances? Less ethical shots and/or more lost game? Better stalking abilities/opportunities?
As non hunter I'm interested to know more about how the discipline and techniques evolved over time.
Regards
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