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Congrats on the awesome hunt. It looks like you had a ton of fun with some good people. I am glad that last shot you wrote about was dead on. Any estimate on how far away the buff was when you hit him that last time? Any idea how old the that cranky old buff was?? Thanks for inserting the images into you post. It makes it a lot easier to look a them.

You must have a nice digital camera the pictures look great. If you can try resizing them to around 640X480 that way we have a little more resolution to admire your great looking kills.

I don't know what RileyMc's problem is too bad he had to be so critical. Maybe he is a tree hugger. There are very few animals that I would not feel comfortable hunting. About the only thing I wouldn't want to shoot are animals that aren't wild. It sounds like all of the animals you were hunting were doing their best to avoid you. Sounds like an ethical hunt to me.
 
Any estimate on how far away the buff was when you hit him that last time? Any idea how old the that cranky old buff was?? Thanks for inserting the images into you post. It makes it a lot easier to look a them.

Strum.

I'd say that buff was about 3 paces away when he dropped. We guessed his age at around 18 years old possibly older. He was the original old mafioso of the jesse. The tracker nick named him M'didiwacu. Which translates to um well "the orifice that is used to elimnate waste....."

I don't know what RileyMc's problem is too bad he had to be so critical. Maybe he is a tree hugger.

I'm guessing animal rights activist from his totally uninformed yet highly emotional statements. It absolutly dumbfounds me that a guy can know what CAMPFIRe stands for but has no earthly idea that it is program specifically designed, implemented and funded by hunters..:confused:

I'll try and do beter on the pics..I'm still learning.
 
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Great pics and a great hunt H&H, thanks for sharing them. Sent prayers for a safe and fun hunt when you left. Wish I was there with you.
 
I'm glad the pics worked out for you, H&H, because now we get to see the animals better with the larger size!

brad cook
 
Smoke,

I left Wayne in Tanzania. but we still have the ankle braclets we made each other..:D :barf: :barf:

NRA,

A mature bull Buffalo will go anywhere from 1600Lbs to about 2000lbs.

And yes they are tasty!!

Anybody out there still want to claim a 1800Lb elk??;)
 
H&H.

WOW!! Note to self!!

For me, being an asian and my grandfather being a butcher, the concept of trophy hunting is just rediculous to me... I eat pretty much every part of every animal..

I am actually anti-trophy-hunting. If the meat is used, then great. If the skins can be used as well as the bones, even better. If it saves a village, can't ask for much more. Great pics. EXCITING!!
 
Twoblink,

I'm glad we could shed a little light on the subject..:)
 
H&H:

Thanks for sharing your great hunt with those of us unable to get to Africa.

Due to your great pics and descriptions of the hunt, almost felt like lookin' for a tree to climb on that last one. :)

Regards,
hps
 
H&HH,

You should write a book. Seriously.


You could follow in Capstick's tracks.

I have some questions.


Is there any game in that area that could be taken with a handgun?


Why don't the villagers hunt this game? Why rely on folks like you?

Weren't you worried about poachers or bandits or non-professional type troops?
 
H&H, I'm just finishing off "C Stories" by Jeff Cooper, where he touches a bit on the thrill of hunting in Africa... your stories and photos seemed a direct continuation, only more vivid. Thanks for taking the time to write this all up.
 
Firstly....
H&HHunter, many thanks for sharing your experience.

Secondly, and without trying to steal H&HH's thunder...

Here2Learn
If the locals hunt, the only thing they get out of the animal is the meat and skin.
If they let visiting hunters in, they get employment, large (by their standards) trophy fees..... and they still get the meat and skin.

OK,,, I've never been there, but if all reports are correct....
(1) It gives the wildlife an economic value over and above that of just low-cost meat or a little poached ivory.
(2) What used to be considered a pest , a threat to crops, stock and people now becomes a valuable resource.
(3) Poaching is discouraged.
(4) Hunting now targets only the older animals,,, young and breeding age animals are preserved instead of being hunted indiscriminately.
(5) Wildlife habitat is preserved because it now has an economic value greater than that of turning it into farmland.
(6) Hunting now concentrates on the use of ethical methods and clean kills instead of the old poacher's methods using wire snares and antique weaponry.
(7) Funds become available for research, breeding programs and wildlife management.

It's an old fact that land will commonly be devoted to the activity that gives the greatest return. CAMPFIRE has proved that a properly managed sport-hunting program produces the greatest return to the landowners.

Warm Regards.......... Cooch
 
You should write a book. Seriously.

Here to learn, Thank you sir you are to kind.:)

It has crossed my mind from time to time.;)



Is there any game in that area that could be taken with a handgun?

I am not certain that you could obtain a handgun permit in Zimbabwe. I would suspect that it wouldn't be allowed. (If any of you know the answer to this please chime in.) If it were however the answer is YES. The cover is just right and the average shot distance would be very conducive to handgun hunting. You can use a handgun for hunting in South Africa, and Mozambique I know for sure. There may be others as well?



Why don't the villagers hunt this game? Why rely on folks like you?

Cooch has answered this question to it's fullest extent and he is correct on all accounts.

I'll just add several comments to his informative reply.

The natives in the area do hunt for themselves and are allowed to shoot/spear some game for food or religious purposes. There is some poaching going on but mostly limited to substanence hunting.

(VENT MODE ON)
This area was a hot bed of poaching during the war and teams of armed poachers supporting Mugabes marxist rebels used to stream in from Mozambique and mass poach to feed the troops and they wiped out the rhino population in the area using the funds from the rhino horn to support their cause.

This area was basically depleted of game animals 25 years ago. Through funds derived from sport hunting and wise conservation and selective taking of animals the area is once again a lush and game rich environment. Sport hunting is the ONLY activity on earth that provides the funds and man power and desire to regrow and repair the envrionment suffciently to allow game to flourish in a region that would otherwise be poached dry in a matter of months. Sport hunting assigns value to animals that would otherwise be killed off as pests. Just like Cooch explained.
The parks systems are great but they are an expensive operation hunting concessions provide income not drain on the local economy.
(VENT MODE OFF);)

Poaching has taken a back seat to sport hunting because the money made from sport hunting is far greater than that of poaching.

That being said. The local natives are Shona tribes men who have a strong hunting heritage and that instinct can not be quelled in a man so a bit of "off the grid" hunting is to be expected and it is tolerated as long as it doesn't get out of control. It seems that the best poachers are usually hired as trackers or game scouts or they wind up in the anti poacher units around the country. No sense in letting all that skill and bush craft go to waste.

The APU's (anti poaching units) Are allow to shoot game while on patrol to feed themselves and thier families. The PH's jokingly refer to the APU's as All Poachers United..:D


Weren't you worried about poachers or bandits or non-professional type troops?

The answer to this question is no..
Unlike an unarmed camp like the gorilla camp that was attcaked in Ruwanda several years ago a hunting camp is not a soft target. Most of them there tourists in a hunting camp are armed. The game scouts all have fully auto AK's and in addition to their heavy rifles it seems most PH's have an FAL or two around. So while banditry is always a possibility it's much easier to go rape and pilage the fuzzy legged anti-hunter typs in the parks than to try and steal from a guy who's sleeping with a loaded .470NE by the bed.

As far as non-pro soldiers that really isn't a factor in the region we were in. It can be a problem in parts of Africa however. The same goes from above their are easier targets of oportunity than a hunting camp. Too many trigger happy gringos in a hunitng camp.
 
H&H,

The handgun question made me wonder.. What would be the practicality of carrying, say, one of the .500 S&W's with the short barrel as a sidearm? Would that be a practical thing as protection against a charging buff? Doing a NY reload with the .500 instead of trying to reload your rifle?

brad cook
 
Digme,

My good friend Ashley Emerson carries a custom 4" Redhawk in .500 Linebaugh which launhces a 440 gr hard cast soild at like 1400FPS. I would guess that is pretty close to the SW 500. He carried it in South Africa Last year but didn't have the chance to use it on buff. So your idea while novel isn't original.. ;)

I would think that a proficient pistolero could definatley dump a buff with a spine or brain shot out of one of these hand canons. They've certainly got the penetration ability.

NOTE TO ALL..

Do not try this at home...To be excecuted only by extremely proficient professional pistol shooters with ice water running through thier veins.
 
H&HH,

Thanks for the reply.

I have no problems with what you do.


I', a hardcore capitalist so I understand that things with no value, their price set to low, are used up while those with value are protected and increased.


So good on ya!


What about the beer? Was it any good?
 
Here2Learn,

I find the local beer to be quite good. I rather enjoy Castle Lager. In fact I rather enjoyed quite a few of them over the last 3 weeks..:)
 
Hasn't someone used the .454 Casull out of a handgun for the Big Five? Thought I read that somewhere.
 
Lynn Thompson of cold steel knives has collected the dangerous seven all with a .454.

Of course he's also killed three buff that I know of possibly more now with a spear.

Talk about ice water....:uhoh:

There has also been an elephant taken with the new S&W 500 i read about it several months ago in Safari Magazine.
 
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