44 mag hunting ammo question

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Dave44

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abou t 4 years ago I took up whitetail hunting here in WI with a handgun(629 classic) and with much of the information coming from most of you when TFL was around. I added a leupold gilmore red-dot scope and have been successful. this year lucky enough to bag a nice 10 pointer( if I could figure out how to put a pix on here I would) here is my dilema --I have been practicing and hunting with 240 grain horaday xtp jhp's--this year I got the ten pointer with four shots--One @ 85 yds which didn't knock him down--One @ 40 yds which did put him upside down and 2 more on the ground to end the suffering none which went through--I'm being led to believe that I should get rid of the hollow points and use something else,
basically heavier and slower---soft point--thanks in advance for any comments or experiences--Dave
 
Let me preface this by saying that I have never shot a deer with a .44 Magnum handgun. But, I have given the matter a lot of thought (whatever that is worth ? ). The bullet I would use personally is a Cast Bullet of the LBT style.
Here is one source of these bullets: http://www.beartoothbullets.com/bulletselect/index.htm
On the left frame, select your caliber. Then look for bullets with a profile called WFN. This stands for WIDE FLAT NOSE.
These bullets have been well proven in the game fields of the world by serious hunters many times.
 
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I shot this deer last year with handloads using that very same bullet. You can pretty much see the exit wound behind my boy, it was rather biggish. The shot was made from 83 paces and it didn't knock the buck down, but he only went about 70 yards before cratering.

This is the third deer I've shot with my 44mag, and the first with the 240gr XTP. The other two were with factory loaded jacketed soft points. I've never had to shoot a deer twice with my 44, and I've yet to recover a bullet in one.

I hunt the very last season here in Ioway, and I'm thinkin' I'll go back to a JSP bullet this year. I found the XTP to be quite deadly, but I could do with a bit less meat damage. The JSP's leave a plenty big enough wound channel and will likely out-penetrate the XTP, although that's not a problem I've had as of yet.
 
Wow nice deer!!--I'm not a reloader and Iwould like to try some jsp of some kind or another--any brands come to mind? I have another friend who only will use the remington nozzlers. dont know much about them
 
Dave...

http://www.sixgunner.com/archive/guests/handgunning_for_deer.htm

Might give you a few ideas, but the fact is that unless you hit the spine they are likely to travel a ways, or require more shootin' to get 'em down. Since I wrote that I whacked another with a .44/300/XTP@1300, high through the lungs about 4" behind the shoulder. They'll usually cover some ground when hit there with about anything, and this time was no different.

You'll occasionally run across a whitetail that seems almost bulletproof. Best bet is to keep shooting until you wear 'em down.

I guess those deer don't read gun magazines...:rolleyes:

Take care.
 
Many thousands of deer are killed each year with 150 to 180 gr 30 caliber bullets. I think it was Layne Simpson who said he used 180gr 44 mag loads for whitetails. I think hardcast lead are overkill for whitetails but it's better than too little penetration. Winchester loads a 250gr 44 mag partition bullet in their Partition Gold.....should be quite a hammer. Happy trails and good hunting to all of you this season. Oh and Merry CHRISTmas, y'all.
 
Sarge, I appreciate the article reference--it was informative-although I have hunted with my handgun for 4 years now this is the first year I have had any trouble with these rounds(I still got him) but I feel I was very lucky
I like to be informed and ready for next year --thanks again---Dave
 
Dave 44- another example...

About 4 years ago I set up a 'sniper hide' in a big blowdown 130 yards from a known deer crossing along an open field; good rest, unobscured vision, and NO WAY the deer were gonna see me first. I had handgun hunted up until the last 2 days of the season, and now it was time to shoot some meat. I was using a tried & true old Remington 78 (plain-Jane 700) in .30-06 with Sierra 150 SP's and a charge of H4895 that has proven to pass 2900 fps from this particular rifle- which had been carefully sighted in at the known distance. A reliable old 3x9 Bushnell completed the package.

I watched about a dozen deer walk by in hopes that a nice buck, who lived in that area, would appear. About 9:30 a 150 pound doe sauntered out and I decided it was time to make steaks. The area is populated enough that I was going to ty to line her up with a big cottonwood, to catch the spent slug when it exited.

She stood out there for what seemed like forever, and finally lined herself up with a big tree. As I was setting the crosshairs on her shoulder she picked up a hind hoof and scratched her left ear, which placed her leg in front of her shoulder for a few seconds. With the scope on 9 I could see a little dark spot in the center of her left shoulder, and when she set her hoof down I centerd it and pressed off the shot. As I recovered from the recoil I looked back through the scope just in time to see the doe walk off like nothing had happened, into the treeline along the creek. I racked another one up, put the safety on and headed down to see what was up.

I walked straight to my 'backstop tree' and used my pocketknife to pop the jacket of the bullet I had just fired out of the bark. It had expanded down to the base, and there was 'evidence' that it had taken a lot of deer components with it as it exited. I followed the ample blood trail about 20 yards into the woods and found my doe on the other side of a 5-foot woven-wire fence she had vaulted as her last official act. The shot had landed exactly on the spot I had picked, with an exit near the point of the offside shoulder you could have dropped a silver dollar into. I dressed the deer right there, and you couldn't have done more damage heart & lungs with an eggbeater.

The point to all this long-winded yammering is that a perfect hit, with an amply-powerful centerfire rifle on a totally oblivious and relaxed deer- produced exactly no visible effect on that deer. If I hadn't had total confidence in that rifle and load, I would had sworn I had missed her altogether. Expecting anything more from a handgun is probably expecting a little too much.

Funny thing... my wife hit one with almost the exact same load a couple of year before that- hit it just a tad high through the shoulders, to where it creased the spine from undeneath. I was sitting in the stand with her, watching the deer through 10X binos when she shot it at maybe 60 yards. It flipped over like a thrown rodeo calf and died right there- never moved an inch.

It's all about where you hit 'em, and I have had similar results from 240 grain SWCs in a .44 mag, with similar hits.

I'm glad you enjoyed the article.
 
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A close friend of mind who has a lot of experience with handguns keeps telling me to trade up to a larger gun, that the DA .44's just wont handle any high pressure loads--sounds good except he has disposable income
and I dont. I'm going to stick with the 629 for now and just improve the loads the best I can. If I came home with another gun, my wife would hit the roof-especially some $1000+ big-bore handgun.
 
Your friend...

is simply wrong. The Model 29 will handle lots of 240 @ 1250, and the Redhawk will handle any sane load you can concoct practically forever w/o shooting loose. I know; I've worn out a 29 and shot a 5 gallon bucklet of heavies through various Redhawks. Don't shoot the really hot stuff, and I'm taking full-bore 240-300 grain factory loads or equivalent reloads (other than for hunting) through the 29 and you'll be fine. They're both fine revolvers if you use them within those parameters.
 
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